Originally Posted by
Brian Clemens
Rossflyguy
You're dam right, we are fighting diligently to put ladders or something in the fishway to keep the stripers as well as shad out. My issue is they, cdfw, has no studies showing that "sturgeon" (their reasoning behind the fishway) will spawn above daguerre. They say stripers won't go above due to water temps, it's to cold and they won't feed in those temps. That data is from delta and East coast striper. Well I don't know anyone that fishes the Yuba below daguerre more than myself. That's not a toot-toot about me, but just the facts, and I catch stripers, and monsters year round. The issue with that is they aren't collecting any inriver striper data. These stripers are very adaptive to their waters. Look at those that fish for them in 48° surf temps, those fish are extremely aggressive, same for the ones on the Yuba, year round. That being said, sturgeon spawn in 57-58° water. They are saying striper won't eat in water colder than that, so they won't go above the fishway. This contradicts their entire program. It's a total bs political money grab. It will destroy one of the last anadromous fisheries in the state, the last one in the central valley and a heritage designated trout stream.
I witnessed sturgeon push up into the DPD hole then slowly work back down to as far as beer can Beach, the 2 hard dog legs below the dump and spawn down there. Not just this year, but previous years as well. This is cuz the water is too cold. I did water temps while shad fishing this year and last. Start of the season mid May, 52deg gets up to about 56 by end of May beginning of June but then the lakes turn over and we drop back down to 54 again. The high temps are typically 8deg higher, sometimes 10 depending on air temps. But you tell me starting temp at 7am and air temp, and I can predict the water temp at 3pm and be within a deg or 2, it's that predictable. Ask me if I see any cdfw biologists studying the river outside of the DPD hole ever? The answer is a big fat NO. NOT EVER. So where's the data.
Worse part, we asked to have them truck some sturgeon above the dam and track them to see what happens. They said they don't want to harm them by trucking them 100yrs tops from below to above as they are fragile. But they will truck tens of millions of smolting salmon out to the bay each and every year in tankers. More political bs.
I can be here all day, debunking each and everything they say as it's a very long list. But those are the facts.
This is why Amoeba's comment was so aggravating, 1 there's no need for that type of verbiage and aggression on this page and 2 he really has no idea what we are doing behind closed doors. We have stockholders doing everything we can to save the Yuba. His comments are pretty much crapping on what we are trying to do.
So that's all of it in a nutshell.
Sorry if any grammar errors. Lots to do today.
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