Jonny B would've been all over this if he was still with us.
Jonny B would've been all over this if he was still with us.
quick update:
I heard back from CDFW, who referred the matter to ~20 staff, who knew nothing about the gate; and told to report to CalTip, which I did today.
I got a private message on this form from State Lands Commission (from a staff person who works there and fly fishes), that my inquiry was received.
This is very unfortunate and inexcusably unexplained. I am rather bewildered, astonished, but mostly disappointed, that this would be done without any consideration of the Public which has been using this access to a navigable water for decades.
Seems that NO ONE knows who did this then a visit with a sawzall or a torch set to remove it wouldn’t be illegal. I’m sure we will find out pretty quick who put it up after it’s been removed.
Thank you guys for being diligent on this, it continues to amaze me how so many government people, who should be aware of this, know nothing. There is a truth somewhere amongst all of this disinformation. My firm belief is that they just play dumb and figure we will go away over time. At the very least, the Yuba Country sheriff’s are very aware of this, as is the Yuba County Public works and possibly some people from Yuba County Board of Supervisors.
As I posted earlier, the gate on the south side of the river should be unlocked and open at this point. The 18 month time limit on that road closure has expired!
So I found some information on the Yuba County Board website at least for the gate on the Hammonton Road One the person that wanted the gate is Mike Lee with the Yuba County Community Development and Services Agency. Yubaman Bob is right the Resolution was for 18 months and the resolution was executed around 7/25/23. That Gate was paid for by Teichert a gravel company. It was closed due to all the 4 WD vehicles tearing up the south side of the Yuba on a mix of Public and Private property. It should be opened and everyone should call Mike Lee at the County. You can see the Resolution and the Mike Lee recommendation at
https://agendasuite.org/iip/yuba/meeting/details/260
The agenda item is 324 2023.
Not sure about the upper gate, but the quarry may have paid for the gate. It doesn't seem legal, but I bet Mike Lee knows something about this as well.
The letter also says they can extend resolution if no one protests so call or email. I can't find a board agenda but the board is definitely not notifying fishing groups. Here is some contact information for the Agency.
Michael Lee, CDSA Director
915 8th Street, Suite 123
Marysville, California 95901
Public Counter Hours
Monday - Friday
8 a.m. to 4 p.m. (closed noon to 1 p.m.)
Se Habla Español
PH: (530) 749-5430
FAX: (530) 749-5616
email: CDSA@co.yuba.ca.us
[QUOTE=mogaru;216687]I would think that those persons responsible for "locking up the road" should be VERY VERY concerned about liability/litigation. My Point being......... given the recent wildfires in L.A. / the Camp Fire in Paradise and the Park fire in Chico/Red Bluff with the unfortunate loss of life and property, who would be ultimately responsible if the gate was locked and a wildfire ripped through the area at say, 7:00a.m. (before the gate was to be unlocked at 8:00a.m. M-F) hindering firefighting efforts and/or medical assistance to potential victims/residents of Parks Bar Road.
I just couldn't hold back my thoughts on this any longer..............
I reside "out of state now" but I do applaud the efforts made by everyone here that has involved themselves in this matter. Smells like a bunch of Good 'ol boys horse shi_ to me.
Just had to put in my 2 cents.
Out of state and watching..............
Bob
Last edited by BS; 02-12-2025 at 11:25 PM.
Not really an issue. Cal Fire would be through that gate in about 15 seconds if they needed to get in there. Everyone needs to contact this Lees dude asap though.
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Do you think we have claim to a prescriptive easement? For both the new north side gate and Hamondton Smartville road closure ? It seems to me ( a layperson ) all the elements for prescriptive easement are in place. Must this easement be established in court, or does it already exist based merely on fact ? Could one use that as a defense against a trespassing suit ( either civil or criminal)?
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