Town Hall Meeting Discussion

[Tony Buzolich]

Last Wednesday (8/24) there was a meeting in West Sacramento with Fish & Wildlife about striped bass and what can be done to save their demise.

I wasn't able to make the meeting and would like to hear what some of you that went thought about it.

There was no mention about it over on Dan's board either.

Any comments?
Tony

[Bill Kiene semi-retired]

Federal Fish and Wildlife?

I thought the plan was to eliminate the Stripped Bass?

I thought that was why they opened up fresh water spear fishing?

The commercial salmon lobbyists don't like the Stripers.



All you would do is have a regulation to protect the big spawning females.

Release all Stripers over 20#? X amount of inches?

[Darian]

I was sure someone who attended the meeting would post something about the result, but.... Oh well. Ive been following the algae bloom in SF Bay/Lake Merritt and the resulting fish kills. Tony B., mentioned what he'd heard on an outdoor radio report (copied from Blanton's Forum):

"On this morning's Bob Simms Outdoor Show they talked quite a bit about the algae bloom and the dead fish around the bay.
One of the researchers (Rosenbloom) stated there were dead sturgeon scattered from the mouth of the Petaluma River to Mare Is.. In addition to the sturgeon they monitored Lake Merritt in Oakland and counted 528 dead striped bass in a small corner of the lake.

It was also said that much of the contamination was from agricultural waste and fertilizer from farmers in and around the delta. Without good water flow effluent builds up in the silt and sediment around the bay. Add to that the warming water temperatures and the resulting fish die off."

It'd be a good opportunity to determine how many/what size the stripers were....

If I recall correctly, Sturgeon are listed under the Endangered Species Act and, tho not listed, Striper populations are in decline. Both are involved in this die off. Dare we speculate about the potential impact on migrating Salmon/Steelhead???

[Tony Buzolich]

Darian,
In regards to salmon and steelhead the warm water temperatures seem to be having the greatest impact on them. It has been stated that there are salmon in the rivers but they don't want to eat because the high water temps has made them lethargic. Sort of like us taking a hot bath on a cold day. Turn on the cold water and you can't wait to get out and dry off.
Over on the Sac Rob Reimer called in to say water temps were almost 72 degrees around Ord Bend where he was fishing. Over here on the Feather River temps are just slightly lower.
Tony

[Mr T]

I was sure someone who attended the meeting would post something about the result, but.... Oh well. Ive been following the algae bloom in SF Bay/Lake Merritt and the resulting fish kills. Tony B., mentioned what he'd heard on an outdoor radio report (copied from Blanton's Forum):

"On this morning's Bob Simms Outdoor Show they talked quite a bit about the algae bloom and the dead fish around the bay.
One of the researchers (Rosenbloom) stated there were dead sturgeon scattered from the mouth of the Petaluma River to Mare Is.. In addition to the sturgeon they monitored Lake Merritt in Oakland and counted 528 dead striped bass in a small corner of the lake.

It was also said that much of the contamination was from agricultural waste and fertilizer from farmers in and around the delta. Without good water flow effluent builds up in the silt and sediment around the bay. Add to that the warming water temperatures and the resulting fish die off."

It'd be a good opportunity to determine how many/what size the stripers were....

If I recall correctly, Sturgeon are listed under the Endangered Species Act and, tho not listed, Striper populations are in decline. Both are involved in this die off. Dare we speculate about the potential impact on migrating Salmon/Steelhead???

Saw an article in SFGate Monday that stated it was from all the bio runoff from years of treated human waste going into the bays. 14 B is what they said updating the plants will cost.

[Sonoman]

Lots of "bio runoff" from homeless camps around the Bay and elsewhere still running into the Bay and rivers. If a company or homeowner dumped waste like that, they would get fined into oblivion. But the politicians look the other way on these homeless camps. I saw a beat-up homeless RV dump its tank into a storm sewer grate last winter in Santa Rosa

[BS]

Lots of "bio runoff" from homeless camps around the Bay and elsewhere still running into the Bay and rivers. If a company or homeowner dumped waste like that, they would get fined into oblivion. But the politicians look the other way on these homeless camps. I saw a beat-up homeless RV dump its tank into a storm sewer grate last winter in Santa Rosa.

No doubt that the "bio runoff" issue is VERY,VERY, much a part of the cause/problem the Bay and rivers are experiencing, and, YES it will cost billions to "clean up".


But please forgive me for this ........................................

"I saw a beat-up homeless RV dump its tank into a storm sewer grate last winter in Santa Rosa."

This triggered a mental flashback from the movie "Christmas Vacation" where "Cousin Eddie" did the exact same thing while parked in "Clark and Ellen's" driveway while visiting.

Ironic that this absurdity has become the new reality.


Just a couple of my thoughts........................................


Bob

[Double_Haul]

Last Wednesday (8/24) there was a meeting in West Sacramento with Fish & Wildlife about striped bass and what can be done to save their demise.

I wasn't able to make the meeting and would like to hear what some of you that went thought about it.

There was no mention about it over on Dan's board either.

Any comments?
Tony

See ncgasa.org website for the lastest info. The next meeting will be Sept 15th.

[Darian]

WOW!!! That information is very damning of state policies in managing water flows thru the Delta and the negative impact on Delta fish species. Time to fire some state politicians.

[Tony Buzolich]

If you don't already, you should listen to Bob Simm's Outdoor Show on Saturday mornings from 5:00AM-8:00AM on KFBK #1530.
Bob is adamant about how the state government is run starting with Charles Bonham (Director of CDFW) and Gov.Newsome.

Every show it comes up about how poor F&W handle issues concerning our outdoors. Most recent mentions are the salmon kills from run-off on the Klamath, and the failure to print a rules and regulations booklet like we've had forever. Now you need to have a computer to see what the regulations are to fish or find limits and seasons. DAMN if you're computer illiterate and don't own a tablet or high end cell phone.