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    Default Help picking a full sinking line for stillwater?

    I'm looking for a 6 wt density compensated line for fishing leach, damsel nymphs and streamers. This would be the line for the deepest structures, and covering lots of waters between obvious hatches. So I'd really like it to cast well over long distances.

    I'm looking at the SA Sonar Seamless Density 5/7, the SA Sonar Titan sink Int/3/5 or the RIO Fathom

    Thoughts on these lines? Alternatives I'm missing?

    Thanks!

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    You might want to consider a shooting head system. They're rather common on this side of the continent. It should do all you ask, but your casts will be much longer than any normal line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Wahl View Post
    You might want to consider a shooting head system. They're rather common on this side of the continent. It should do all you ask, but your casts will be much longer than any normal line.
    Ed
    What Ed says. You have described the perfect scenario for a shooting head. Anything else would be a compromise.

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    Interesting. I have used a shooting head system on my 9wt for Striped bass in the salt. Definitely the brute strength approach. I hadn't given it a thought for this application. Certainly something to think about. Thanks!

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    I agree with Ed. I started using shooting heads back in the early 70's and still use them today. I use the dreaded Amnesia clear shooting line, most people hate the stuff. It wasn't until the early 90's I started using full lines.
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    For ~20 years those semi-clear medium sinking full weight forward lines have been the best selling sinking line for stillwater.

    Rio, Cortland, Orvis, Scientific Angler Master and Airflo all make them.

    They are usually rated in inches per second sink rates.


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    30-50 years ago the top selling stillwater sinking line was a weight forward full sinking type 2 medium sink line.......

    The most popular brand and size and type where: Scientific Angler WF6S Wet Cell II or Cortland WF6S type 2

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    Serious stillwater Commandos might have 2 to 4 complete outfits full rigged in the boats.

    9' rods in 5 and 6 weights are the top sellers with 4 in third for stillwater.

    1) dry fly floater
    2) indo floater
    3) true Intermediate slow sink = 1/2 IPS
    4) clear medium sink = 2 IPS
    5) fast sinking full weight forward line = 3-6 IPS

    Sink-tip are used in stillwater but not as a rule by the masses.

    Hal Janssen, Brian Chan and Phil Rowley have a written about Stillwater fly fishing in depth.

    They have videos, books and articles on the subject.
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    I live in an area where in the summer the trout holding depth for most lakes is 20-30 feet. A type 5 or 7 is more appropriate. Which prompted my question about the best casting version of these lines...

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    It would be hard to find the person with that knowledge.

    Someone would have to get hold of about 6 of those lines and cast them all in a real world situation?

    Rio, SA, Airflo and Cortland......in that order of popularity, according to sales......but not your answer.

    Those super fast sinking line are very dense and are thin with very little taper so the line speed is pretty fast.


    **In the old days I probably could have gotten you one of each of those lines free so you could run a test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Kiene semi-retired View Post
    For ~20 years those semi-clear medium sinking full weight forward lines have been the best selling sinking line for stillwater.

    Rio, Cortland, Orvis, Scientific Angler Master and Airflo all make them.

    They are usually rated in inches per second sink rates.


    ____________________________________

    30-50 years ago the top selling stillwater sinking line was a weight forward full sinking type 2 medium sink line.......

    The most popular brand and size and type where: Scientific Angler WF6S Wet Cell II or Cortland WF6S type 2

    ___________________________________

    Serious stillwater Commandos might have 2 to 4 complete outfits full rigged in the boats.

    9' rods in 5 and 6 weights are the top sellers with 4 in third for stillwater.

    1) dry fly floater
    2) indo floater
    3) true Intermediate slow sink = 1/2 IPS
    4) clear medium sink = 2 IPS
    5) fast sinking full weight forward line = 3-6 IPS

    Sink-tip are used in stillwater but not as a rule by the masses.

    Hal Janssen, Brian Chan and Phil Rowley have a written about Stillwater fly fishing in depth.

    They have videos, books and articles on the subject.
    I have Brian and Phil's books and have seen many of their videos. Fantastic resources... I need to check out Hal more.

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    We been using s/a uniform sink. We fish sink 4 most of the time but also have sink 5 too if fish really deep. Sink 2 is really good too for fishing weed beds and depths up to 7ft or so.

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