My first attempt at fly tying was using a Ned Grey (spelling?) kit my dad gave me when I was 12 (1952). Wish I would've kept the vise. to compare with modern vises. I still have some materials from Hash's Here & Hackle....
My first attempt at fly tying was using a Ned Grey (spelling?) kit my dad gave me when I was 12 (1952). Wish I would've kept the vise. to compare with modern vises. I still have some materials from Hash's Here & Hackle....
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Yes, Eric Leiser had a book on getting your own materials, many years ago.
We sold many of them....."Fly-Tying Materials" by Eric Leiser
https://www.amazon.com/Fly-Tying-Mat.../dp/0832903337
They seem to be cheap.......used.
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There was no factory blended dubbings in 1970s.
We sold patches of all kinds of natural fur.
We also sold small electric coffee bean grinders to blend dubbing in.
Som were starting to put synthetic materials in their natural dubbing.
I guess before that people put fur they trimming off the hide into a Mason gar with water.
Then they shook it up to blend it?
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There were no commercial genetic hackle farms in the 1970s.
We got rooster necks from China and India.
I would buy 100 India dry fly necks from Creative Sports in Walnut Creek, CA.
Hal Janssen should be how to grade them which was a great help.
First you separate them buy colors: white, brown, coachman brown, ginger, light brown, cocabandi, badger.
I would look at the hackle barb lengths/size, check stiffness against my upper lip and look at hackle stem length.
10 out of the 100 might sell for $5.00, some went for $3.00 and the lowest ones went for $1.00
I think we dyed hackle black and blue dun as there were not too many naturals.
I had an old gas stove at my home and in the evenings I would dye necks and saddles in my boxer shorts.
We heated the water, decreased the hackle, used Rit and Vineyard dyes.
When I thought the hackle was dyed well enough we used vinegar to set the colors.
I think all this is in Eric Leiser's book, Fly-Tying Materials.
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Wouldn't an old pan or coffee can work better? Yuk, yuk, I still got it. You're absolutely right Bill, sourcing and dying your own was the only way to get tying materials for many of us. I used to have skins pinned out, salted and drying on my garage floor all the time. Pine squirrels, fox squirrels, a woodchuck, half an elk hide... the neighborhood kids all thought I was Daniel Boone.I had an old gas stove at my home and in the evenings I would dye necks and saddles in my boxer shorts.
About 15 years ago, I inherited all the fly tying material from a colleague of my father. They were about the same age. He was the one who got me into fly fishing back in the 70's. He was into tying back in the 60's
I still have a lot of those materials. Nymo thread; seal, beaver, and polar bear patches.
The chenille was very different back then.
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