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    After they are down we just need another "100 year flood"?

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    History of California floods:


    1 1800–1899

    1.1 Los Angeles flood of 1825
    1.2 January 1850
    1.3 Years closely following January 1850
    1.4 October 1858: Schooner-beaching storm surge in San Diego
    1.5 December 1861 – January 1862: California's Great Flood

    2 1900–1949

    2.1 1909: California flood
    2.2 December 1933 – January 1934: Crescenta Valley flood
    2.3 February 1937: Santa Ana flood
    2.4 December 1937: Northeast California flood
    2.5 Los Angeles Flood of 1938
    2.6 September 1939: Los Angeles River

    3 1950 – 1999

    3.1 November 1950: California flood
    3.2 December 1955: California flood
    3.3 March 1964: North Coast California tsunami
    3.4 December 1964: California flood
    3.5 September 1976: Ocotillo flash flood
    3.6 January 1982: Northern California flood
    3.7 1986 California and Western Nevada floods
    3.8 January and March 1995: California flood
    3.9 New Year's Day 1997: Northern California flood

    4 2000–present

    4.1 August 2014: Coastal flooding due to "Big Wednesday" wave action
    4.2 January 2017: California flood
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    Looks like we get a flood every 10 yrs give or take except for the drought in the early 2000’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Kiene semi-retired View Post
    After they are down we just need another "100 year flood"?

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    History of California floods:


    1 1800–1899

    1.1 Los Angeles flood of 1825
    1.2 January 1850
    1.3 Years closely following January 1850
    1.4 October 1858: Schooner-beaching storm surge in San Diego
    1.5 December 1861 – January 1862: California's Great Flood

    2 1900–1949

    2.1 1909: California flood
    2.2 December 1933 – January 1934: Crescenta Valley flood
    2.3 February 1937: Santa Ana flood
    2.4 December 1937: Northeast California flood
    2.5 Los Angeles Flood of 1938
    2.6 September 1939: Los Angeles River

    3 1950 – 1999

    3.1 November 1950: California flood
    3.2 December 1955: California flood
    3.3 March 1964: North Coast California tsunami
    3.4 December 1964: California flood
    3.5 September 1976: Ocotillo flash flood
    3.6 January 1982: Northern California flood
    3.7 1986 California and Western Nevada floods
    3.8 January and March 1995: California flood
    3.9 New Year's Day 1997: Northern California flood

    4 2000–present

    4.1 August 2014: Coastal flooding due to "Big Wednesday" wave action
    4.2 January 2017: California flood


    Did a little reading after you posted this yesterday. The Great Flood of 1862 was scary big! Kind of makes you realize how volatile our weather actually is and always has been. Yes, they had atmospheric rivers back back in the 1800's! Definitely not some new phenomenon!

    Jay

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    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-catastrophe/#

    Thought you might enjoy this old article.
    Cheers, Ken



    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Kiene semi-retired View Post
    After they are down we just need another "100 year flood"?

    ______________________________

    History of California floods:


    1 1800–1899

    1.1 Los Angeles flood of 1825
    1.2 January 1850
    1.3 Years closely following January 1850
    1.4 October 1858: Schooner-beaching storm surge in San Diego
    1.5 December 1861 – January 1862: California's Great Flood

    2 1900–1949

    2.1 1909: California flood
    2.2 December 1933 – January 1934: Crescenta Valley flood
    2.3 February 1937: Santa Ana flood
    2.4 December 1937: Northeast California flood
    2.5 Los Angeles Flood of 1938
    2.6 September 1939: Los Angeles River

    3 1950 – 1999

    3.1 November 1950: California flood
    3.2 December 1955: California flood
    3.3 March 1964: North Coast California tsunami
    3.4 December 1964: California flood
    3.5 September 1976: Ocotillo flash flood
    3.6 January 1982: Northern California flood
    3.7 1986 California and Western Nevada floods
    3.8 January and March 1995: California flood
    3.9 New Year's Day 1997: Northern California flood

    4 2000–present

    4.1 August 2014: Coastal flooding due to "Big Wednesday" wave action
    4.2 January 2017: California flood
    Love the challenge...What try? No try. Just do!

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    Cool article, never knew about that flood.......must've been a sight.

    I always like checking out and pondering the old remnants of the Martins Ferry Bridge submerged in the Klamath from the rebuilt one.

    That the Wietchpec store was washed away (and one of the owners died) is also super impressive if it sat anywhere near the current store it's a long way down to the river.

    The Klamath does well in floods, the rearranging of the rocks is good for the system......it kills the worms that lead to c shasta, the smolt killer. More natural flow and flood events in the upper river are just what she needs and will follow dam removal.

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Cool article, never knew about that flood must've been a sight.

    I always like checking out and pondering the old remnants of the Martins Ferry Bridge submerged in the Klamath from the rebuilt one. That the Wietchpec store was washed away (and one of the owners died) is also super impressive if it sat anywhere near the current store its a long way down to the river.

    The Klamath does well in floods, the rearranging of the rocks is good for the system it kills the worms that lead to c shasta the smolt killer. More natural flow and flood events in the upper river are just what she needs and will follow dam removal.

    Andy
    How about the high water marks on the Eel! I am blown away by that every time I am there! There can be a lot of water of water coming down that river!

    Free the Klamath!

    Jay

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    Well Ken,
    Even a toilet is no good without a good flush! Mama Nature surely knows best. Think of all the debris that she would get cleaned out today.
    ....lee s.

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    Great read Ken! Thank you.

    Free the Klamath!


    Jay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Kiene semi-retired View Post
    After they are down we just need another "100 year flood"?

    ______________________________

    History of California floods:


    1 1800–1899

    1.1 Los Angeles flood of 1825
    1.2 January 1850
    1.3 Years closely following January 1850
    1.4 October 1858: Schooner-beaching storm surge in San Diego
    1.5 December 1861 – January 1862: California's Great Flood

    2 1900–1949

    2.1 1909: California flood
    2.2 December 1933 – January 1934: Crescenta Valley flood
    2.3 February 1937: Santa Ana flood
    2.4 December 1937: Northeast California flood
    2.5 Los Angeles Flood of 1938
    2.6 September 1939: Los Angeles River

    3 1950 – 1999

    3.1 November 1950: California flood
    3.2 December 1955: California flood
    3.3 March 1964: North Coast California tsunami
    3.4 December 1964: California flood
    3.5 September 1976: Ocotillo flash flood
    3.6 January 1982: Northern California flood
    3.7 1986 California and Western Nevada floods
    3.8 January and March 1995: California flood
    3.9 New Year's Day 1997: Northern California flood

    4 2000–present

    4.1 August 2014: Coastal flooding due to "Big Wednesday" wave action
    4.2 January 2017: California flood
    Bill;

    Yes, floods in California are not unique and have occurred since European man began keeping records. Here's one more for your table from our upcoming book, California Winter Steelhead, Life History and Fly Fishing -"In the Southern Coast Region, rainfall from storms provides much of the streamflow in rivers and creeks. Unfortunately, rainfall in the region has demonstrated significant variation over time. In a 1931 report by H. B. Lynch, Consulting Engineer with the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California- “Spanish missionaries arrived in California in 1769 during a period of heavy rainfall. Diaries of various individuals from that time included stream widths and depths throughout the region which suggested the preceding seasons were very wet…. The first flood reported in California occurred on the Los Angeles River in 1770.

    Dennis
    www.dennisplee.com

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