Yeah that pretty much sums it up Carl. You have to have low expectations. Floating helps you get away from it quite a bit, especially on a week day. I didn't mean to sound like I was surprised by it, grew up in Sonoma county and have fished the Russian for years and am used to it. I generally don't mind it, and enjoy the camaraderie and conversation during the shad run with everyone lined up at Johnson's, but today it just sucked because I was right on top of fish. Etiquette aside, it's also really irritating when a gear guy pulls a fish out of a run you've been swinging a fly through on his first cast, definitely not the first time that's happened to me ����