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    I keep going back up to my original post at the top and add information as we find it.

    Thanks for the good help here guys.

    List is getting pretty long.

    I am still looking for the city that some above were made in.
    Bill Kiene (Boca Grande)

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    Default Orvis Odyssey Reels - SoCal

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Kiene semi-retired View Post
    I keep going back up to my original post at the top and add information as we find it.

    Thanks for the good help here guys.

    List is getting pretty long.

    I am still looking for the city that some above were made in.
    Bill - From Fiberglass Fly Rodders Page

    Mr. James LePage, who joined Orvis in 1990 and does not need any introduction, designed the Odyssey reel. He has been involve on every rod and reel for the last 28 years, even the latest Helios rods. A quick search on the web will find some patents register on his name.

    Mr. Richard Jacobsen, an old timer west coast flyfisherman with 11 IGFA records on Halibut and Corbina making him the top IGFA record setting angler for 2000/2001, was responsible for production. They were all manufactured by his company Chipmaster Manufacturing Inc. in the cities of Azusa and Ontario in the State of California.

    There are 3 versions of the reel (plus 4 different models I, II, III &IV). The versions is the evolution of the reel:
    First: Rollers/Plungers/springs
    Second: Pawl
    Third: Pawl/Cork-Rulon (called Odyssey+)

    I read that at the beginning, the first ones sold were taken back to do some adjustments, I do not know if they were changed to the second version or was something different. Also, I have seen a couple with an X engraved, someone said those marked that way are the returned reels fixed and shipped back but, need confirmation on this. Mr. Jacobsen doesn ́t remember marking anyone with an X, maybe it was at Orvis or someplace else.

    A few were made in Korea but, not a lot. They are very difficult to find. Mr. Jacobsen recalls to rework 135 of them and remembers that they were no special marks and probably they were all Model II with no serial number.

    According to this forum, first catalogue appear is 1995. Prices for Model III thru the years were 1995($415), 1997 ($460), 2002 ($275) and, on 2003 it disappeared. I need to find the rest of the years.

    I made a little database with serial numbers & models base on all the pictures I could find on the web. Unfortunately, inside pictures were not available to add the version on the chart. Seems that serial numbers are composed with Julian date/year-number of reel. Conclusions based on this interpretation of the code:

    On 1995 production starts (Mr. Jacobsen says maybe on 1994, no reel found with that number yet). 54% of pics and of course biggest production so it can be in all Orvis stores & available on catalogue. (There is one Odyssey+ found with this 95, with odd Serial number as well) 24895 & 27895 are the most common (September/October)......getting ready for holidays??

    There are not any from 1996 so, either there were very few made or changes were been taken.

    On 1997 there is an Odyssey+ and I just found one (4% data) and Julian date sets it on December. Probably Odyssey+ started late that year.

    1998 is second biggest year (25% of the finds) and all are Model III, and just one that is not Odyssey+. Probably Model III is the most commercial reel because trout fisherman didn ́t care too much about the cork/drag system basically made for Tarpon (as advertisement state) and bonefish fisherman liked it a lot (36% of all findings are Model III).

    1999 production slows down again (11%) but, different Models are found

    2000 is a small year (4%)

    2001 4% again and the reel found is mark with an X

    Numbers are engraved on the foot, which is attached with two screws into the frame so, it is possible that production could use old feet and, Orvis and owners, replaced or exchanged feet. This disclosure does not cover all the discrepancies I found with my interpretation. They are highlighted in red. I don’t know how to copy an excel sheet here so, I made an image, please see below

    I want to keep researching with people and details involve with the Odyssey, all info you can provide will be welcome. And would like to increase the data so, if you own an Odyssey reel, please provide Serial number, Model and if it is a (+) or not. It will be nice to know as well, the version on the inside for the non+ ones.

    If you have more information or a better interpretation of the code, will be great to hear it.

    Scanned pages of Orvis catalogs were the Odyssey appeared and owner ́s manuals will be very appreciated. The only ones I have are: Orvis catalogue 2002, owner ́s manual for the Odyssey+, and owner ́s manual for the Rollers/Plungers/springs Models III & IV.
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    Thanks Ned.............great info.

    Being an Orvis dealer we had some of those Odyssey reels and sold some too.

    They were beautifully finished.
    Bill Kiene (Boca Grande)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Kiene semi-retired View Post
    I keep going back up to my original post at the top and add information as we find it.

    Thanks for the good help here guys.

    List is getting pretty long.

    I am still looking for the city that some above were made in.
    Bill,

    Bill Archuletta was just a Killer reel designer, and made lots of TOP END Trout -Steelhead- and Saltwater reels, back in the day they sold for 2 k each, not sure how much they are worth today? Bill used to hang out at the local fly shops here in Santa Rosa, and do all the reel repairs, he's a great guy and a hell of an engineer.

    Carl Blackledge

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    Picture of one of Bill Archuleta's fly reels.......



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    Bill Kiene (Boca Grande)

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    Certified FFF Casting Instructor

    Email: billkiene63@gmail.com
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    Ask Doug Brutaco, I don't have one, Ray Beatle also has one

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    I knew that Bill Archuleta made some reels but not that many? Wow.

    Bill is still fixing fly reels......he moved to Grants Pass, Oregon.

    http://www.archuletasreelworks.com/
    Bill Kiene (Boca Grande)

    567 Barber Street
    Sebastian, Florida 32958

    Fly Fishing Travel Consultant
    Certified FFF Casting Instructor

    Email: billkiene63@gmail.com
    Cell: 530/753-5267
    Web: www.billkiene.com

    Contact me for any reason........
    ______________________________________

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    Bill -

    I think Phos was manufactured in Long Beach. I worked for them for about a year before I repped for Teton. Teton was in San Andreas.
    Lincoln Gray
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    Default Archuleta is a once in a generation master

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Kiene semi-retired View Post
    I knew that Bill Archuleta made some reels but not that many? Wow.

    Bill is still fixing fly reels......he moved to Grants Pass, Oregon.

    http://www.archuletasreelworks.com/

    I got a Thompson 100 a while back that was in horrible shape and sent it to Bill. He took it apart and made it into a wonderful reel I use for Shad. Guy is a genius and a super great guy. What a treasure!
    No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity

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