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Thread: Thinking about a 10ft nympher?

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    I think most of the years I fished a 9ft rod were nearly a waste of time....now that I wield an 11ftr.
    Both rods I carry are 11ft. A 6wt switch and a 3wt ESN. They allow surgical drifts....with a dry or an Indy.
    If you can relearn to mend that is........
    Most are trained from dry fly fishing, to mend with their elbow down and flick it.......use that extra reach and get your elbow above your ear for best results. The fish will hate you.........

    Jim

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    Thank you all for your responses, I'm now convinced that I can't live without a longer nympher...now to convince she-who-must-be-obeyed that I can't live without a longer nympher...(already have four 5wts for trout that I have convinced her I can't live without).

    PVP- Have just started exploring these rods, I will test drive a few to get a feel for the length I might like. I will consider other lengths. What wt do you nymph for steelhead with?

    EO- When you say your rod is not a good for throwing dry flys, do you mean the rod isn't, or the length isn't?

    Cya - Thx, I will use your first sentence as a reference.

    SST - My time is soon too, that's why I'm considering these rods.

    ED - Sorry my spellcheck was off, it should have read Namibian nymphing...

    M - See ED.

    DJ - Another endorsement, thx!

    BK - Thx for sharing your knowledge.

    MTX - See M!

    bf - Which/what do you use if bugs start popping?

    LS - Thx for the links. I guess I've been around long enough that when I see these various techniques/methods presented on various media, I often think "Hey, I've been doing that for decades, why isn't it called the JGB method", or something like that. Better hire a better PR guy I guess!

    Cheers, JGB

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    Hey JGB,

    The rod is great, but the tip is very soft on my 10.5 footer....I prefer more of a
    med-fast 9 footer for throwing dries. The soft tip on the Cortland is super for detecting
    strikes while nymphing with or without indo.

    I see it as a nymphing rod...which Cortland actually calls it the "Competition Nymph Rod."

    Although I don't compete

    Eric

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    Larry, not like that............
    My elbow is above my ear!
    These guys never raised the arms at all. They show me that dry fly indoctrination....
    And a stack mend on the T just makes it easy for the fish to pick up, and put down before you can set.
    If you have a line too tight it drags, and too slack you can't set in time, there is a place in between that I live......
    They are very suspicious shoppers. And, rightfully so........
    The main deal....is don't move your fly or bobber when you mend.
    Lifting high avoids that. As opposed to the elbow down flick.......

    To answer the question about which rod I fish the dries on.........both rods......
    The big stick is for big fish/far away, and the 3wt for smaller/closer fish...obviously.
    I think a 4wt would be best....I was fought to a stand-off on the 3wt a while back.......I hate that.
    So any fish over 20" should get more leverage.

    Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGB View Post

    PVP- Have just started exploring these rods, I will test drive a few to get a feel for the length I might like. I will consider other lengths. What wt do you nymph for steelhead with?
    As mentioned in my original post I use a 6wt, 10' Z-Axis for steelhead bobber fishing, I also use this on the Truckee when the water is big, but usually I stick with the 4wt 10.5' aforementioned rod since I am typically fishing the T at lower flows.

    My Z axis has not gotten much love this season because I have been swinging big blue and green spey flies like it is going out of style. Since 80% of my SH fishing is on the Trinity, I really only need the 6wt...small water, modest sized fish...more versatile is a 7wt 10' for the variety of SH waters one will encounter throughout NCAL.

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    Thought I'd chip-in here...

    I've been using 10' 4 and 5 weight rods, exclusively, on the Truckee river (Cali-side) for a minimum of a decade. Yes, I do have a 3 wt 11' Sage ESN; which I'll use occasionally. Personally, the latter 3wt rod, IMO, is a bit too soft for my liking; most especially when I want to quickly bring-in a decent trout 18"+ to the net regardless as to how much "butt-power" I can apply. I want to C&R a wild trout with the highest probability of its survival.

    Below is an excerpt from my Truckee River Primer article that appeared in the February 2017 California Fly Fisher magazine:


    "Although a 4-weight rod is an ideal tool fly fishing a high-mountain stream, that’s not true on the Truckee, especially from the spring to the fall, when the inevitable afternoon winds start blowing. Then a fast 6-weight has enough body to punch line out and is useful throughout the year when plying the bigger canyon waters down to the Nevada state line. A 5-weight rod is a reasonable compromise. In recent years, I’ve become enamored of single-handed 10-footers. They’re handy for mending, reaching out, and high-stick nymphing. Some regulars are using method-specific 11-foot “Euro” switch rods."


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    Thx again for all your comments.

    Some sources suggest that the 10ft 3wt/4wt specialty nymphing rods are for fishing with little or no fly line out the tip, just leader. If this is so, I get why the 3wt/4wt choice, but I don't know that I want such a soft tip as I intend to fish with fly line out my tip, sometimes as much as a rod length or two - plus leader. Should I be looking at the usual trout rods, just in a 10ft 4wt? Maybe not necessarily a nymphing rod, as they all seem to be tailored to a specific technique, but a more general rod as I tend to use a variety of techniques?

    To add to what I stated earlier, I usually fish a floater upstream at a variety of distances, adjusting leader length and weight, no indicator. With fly line out the tip I do lots of roll casting, flop casting, pile casting, etc..., mending(the fly line) and some overhead. Because of the distance I fish at sometimes, I can't call it tight line nymphing, but I might call it direct line nymphing? I keep a tight and direct line from my rod index finger to my fly, allowing for currents and depth to dictate length/wt of my terminal set up. Rather than an indicator I will try to fish the line/leader loop connection as an indicator, mending my line to get the connection above the fly.

    Thx, JGB

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    A 10' 7 wt. has been my go to rod for 7-8 years now. Sometimes the 7 wt. aspect is way more than I need, but I'm too lazy/cheap to buy other weights as well. The added length is great for nymphing, which is what I do 95% of the time: incredible mending, extra reach when high-sticking and longer casts. The only drawback is that the fish gains extra leverage (think of a longer lever vs. a shorter lever), making it easier for your arms to tire out. So make sure it has at least a small fighting butt to wedge against your gut for when you hook into a big one. I also have some switch rods but still prefer the 10' 7 wt. unless I'm swinging for steelhead.
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    i got set up on a 10' 3wt orvis recon for my nymphing rod, and also beginning to use it for some light streamer work. it's a pleasure to fish with, being one of the lightest nymphing rods on the market, and easy to balance.

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