Folsom Lake rising much faster

[Yuba rainbow]

It shows no etiquette, no class, no common descency a lack of respect for nature and takes no skill.
Why not just pick up a spin rod with a spark plug and treble hook?

Yes I completely agree with that. That's why I would never do it or bobber fish in general, it would be no fun. I get that I just don't get the anger/butthurt that people get at those people. It's lame fishing but why care if they do it?

[Chukwithak]

So I've been checking the lake level like a crazy man. This morning i swear I saw 55%, now I see 54% but I'm sure the incoming has got to be more than 800cfs. Am I missing something?

[cyama]

It shows no etiquette, no class, no common descency a lack of respect for nature and takes no skill.
Why not just pick up a spin rod with a spark plug and treble hook?

Honestly the problem lies with the CDFW regulations. They know there is a problem yet they fail to implement regulations that make it illegal to fish over or around spawning fish. It is imperative to change the regulations on the American and Putah Creek. You are actually allowed to use bait on the upper reaches of the American for spawning fish. I gave up on the American many years ago it is basically just a put and take fishery destined to die.

[Yuba rainbow]

Honestly the problem lies with the CDFW regulations. They know there is a problem yet they fail to implement regulations that make it illegal to fish over or around spawning fish. It is imperative to change the regulations on the American and Putah Creek. You are actually allowed to use bait on the upper reaches of the American for spawning fish. I gave up on the American many years ago it is basically just a put and take fishery destined to die.

I guess that's why I never cared if people fished over spawning fish in the American because I too see it as a put and take fishery for hatchery fish. But putah is is a different story I would be angered at fishing spawning fish there and think they should close putah during the spawn.

[STEELIES/26c3]

I realize that there really are no truly WILD steelhead in the AR.

That doesn't prevent me from respecting the fishery as a whole.

When I catch a fish (adipose clipped or not) if I intend to release it, I want it to survive... thus I don't take it out of the water. If it's trying to spawn, I don't fish for it. I don't use methods which allow me to catch the same fish multiple times such that I put undue stress on the fish and reduce its chances of survival and reproduction.

Whereas, we will never have a sustained population of naturally-spawning fish on the American River, the ones hatched in the river do tend to fight better than those raised in the hatchery thus I believe it's important that we anglers do all we can to promote that by not fishing the redds.

Finally, steelhead which get long-lined, flossed, or have a hook, line, sinker or fly hit them in the ass, fin, body... tend to get spooked and become reluctant to grab a legitimately-presented; fly, lure, bait.

Steelhead, whether wild or hatchery-raised, are magnificent creatures worthy of respect and good sportsmanship by those who pursue them.

[STEELIES/26c3]

The incoming to the river has fluctuated between 820 and 846 cfs today.
The level of Folsom has only increased since November.
It's at 537214 currently.
Friday there should be a significant pulse flow in to the AR
Here's the last 12 hours:

02/01/2016 00:00	420.07		528563		162		10106
02/01/2016 01:00	420.19		529551		988		12952
02/01/2016 02:00	420.30		530456		1054		12022
02/01/2016 03:00	420.40		531279		1061		11033
02/01/2016 04:00	420.50		532102		1065		11037
02/01/2016 05:00	420.62		533090		1154		13118
02/01/2016 06:00	420.70		533748		1418		9398
02/01/2016 07:00	420.80		534571		947		10920
02/01/2016 08:00	420.89		535312		1084		10060
02/01/2016 09:00	420.95		535806		1999		7987
02/01/2016 10:00	421.03		536466		1974		9982
02/01/2016 11:00	421.12		537214		196		9255

[Mark Kranhold]

[QUOTE=STEELIES/26c3;163344)

Steelhead, whether wild or hatchery-raised, are magnificent creatures worthy of respect and good sportsmanship by those who pursue them.[/QUOTE]
Amen brother!!

[Yuba rainbow]

Well said I respect that! They are definitely magnificent creatures. I understand, I don't think I will every truly care if they choose to fish lame, but get your point. Thanks!!

[steel2theReel]

I realize that there really are no truly WILD steelhead in the AR.

That doesn't prevent me from respecting the fishery as a whole.

When I catch a fish (adipose clipped or not) if I intend to release it, I want it to survive... thus I don't take it out of the water. If it's trying to spawn, I don't fish for it. I don't use methods which allow me to catch the same fish multiple times such that I put undue stress on the fish and reduce its chances of survival and reproduction.

Whereas, we will never have a sustained population of naturally-spawning fish on the American River, the ones hatched in the river do tend to fight better than those raised in the hatchery thus I believe it's important that we anglers do all we can to promote that by not fishing the redds.

Finally, steelhead which get long-lined, flossed, or have a hook, line, sinker or fly hit them in the ass, fin, body... tend to get spooked and become reluctant to grab a legitimately-presented; fly, lure, bait.

Steelhead, whether wild or hatchery-raised, are magnificent creatures worthy of respect and good sportsmanship by those who pursue them.

Amen, brother!
A few days ago I actually saw a guy, supervising his 8 year old kid and holing a spinning rod, and THROWING COBBLES AT SPAWNING STEEIHEAD.
If YR doesn't mind THAT I give up. There are guidelines of decency that are subject to interpretation but really, showing your KID how to bonk one of God's miracles with a stone takes the taco.

Grant

[Digger]

Each year We buy the privilege to fish within the established regulations in place.
Regulations are derived partly from science, politics, and human needs.
As anglers we each decide to what extent of the regulations we can/will abide by.

There are POV's supporting wild fish and all fish.
While at the Nimbus hatchery I spoke with a part time volunteer who said he'd only seen a couple wild fish this season.
I'd say that's sad. But realistically I doubt it's reversible in today's environment.
Even if regs were changed to enable wild fish, enforcement is a whole other issue.

Factory steelhead still have the lifecycle of growth, migration, return, and spawn just as the wild versions do.
Pretty incredible against all odds of the present day.
Where you stand is a personal decision of ethics, morals, beliefs.
I struggle with this myself, it's unfortunate we now have to create wildlife.