Running Lines....
rh crank,.... Lots of good info in this thread. I'm not a fan of using the clinch knot for connecting to a head even tho I've used it in a pinch.
Maybe some discussion of running lines will answer your questions:
"Found a reference to the integrated lines which suggests that regardless of their sink rate they do not sink at the rate of a designated head and mono rig. Is this because that running line is a floater?"
Integrated lines generally have a floating or intermediate running line component incorporated into a sinking head. Even tho these running lines are narrow in diameter, they are likely to be wider in diameter than anything other than an intermediate sink tip/head. They will sink slower than the head. This is even more evident when using mono as a running line. IMO, using an integrated line lets you cast/control the retrieve easier. Depending on the sink rate of the head used, it will try to sink at a relatively level(??) while the running line will tend to be pulled down from the end attached to the head, first. The affect of that will be to slow the sinking of the tail of the head, creating an angled attitude overall (maybe a more direct line to the fly??). On the other hand, most (not all) mono running lines are narrower in diameter than a shooting head and may be softer than non-mono running lines are. They're a bit trickier to cast/retrieve but sink readily to depth. Unless controlled, this may create some slack behind the head which will tend to sink at a level attitude. If not controlled, the slack may cause missed strikes before starting a retrieve. Also, the retrieve does not eliminate all of the slack, leaving the entire line in a slight bow. For example, I've been using a T-20 head with a 46 pound mono running line for deep water at La Ventana for several seasons, now. I don't like casting anything that heavy, so, I strip off almost the whole running line and lob the head out. Then I let it sink until the entire running line is taken out and start a retrieve. There're strong/deep currents in the Sea of Cortez and my set-up allows the line to get down deep while allowing currents to straighten the line (maybe). I've missed a few strikes as a result of slack but not often.
"When picking up deep heads to get them started, do you often have to bring it in the top guide? Seems like my 28 footers are too long to get moving."
In general, it's not a good idea to bring the connecting knot into the tip-top guide when preparing to cast. If you're experiencing problems using a 28 foot head, maybe it's too heavy for the rod(??). If wading when casting a shooting head set-up, it's not always easy to pick a deep head up. Most single hand casters use a roll cast to bring the line up to the surface, then make a back-cast to straighten out the head and make one fore cast, water loading the line and one more back cast, then a double haul forecast. If you're standing on a boat deck, this is much easier.
Hope this made sense....
Last edited by Darian; 09-14-2015 at 02:04 PM.
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