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    Default More MLPA's -

    250 miles of coast ..... take your flyrod out to C&R a few Perch , you are a criminal -

    http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2010/...l-marine-area/

    D.~

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    Wow, that's just unbelievable. PaulC, did you just lose your fishing spot?
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    Just a quick heads-up for the Central & Northern surf junkies...........there have been numerous closures put into effect this past winter. We've been losing access for years along the central/northern stretch of the State. Bummer but true.

    I recommend checking the regs before heading out this season.
    With respect, Ken
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    Default MLPA's....

    Yep!!! And we did it to ourselves by voting for the MLPA in an initiative.... Another example of unintended consequences.

    Anyway, all is not lost. These areas are set up to include subdivisions that vary in levels of activity (fishing?) within them. There're on-line maps of all MLPAs in each area on the DFG website.

    It's getting fairly complicated to fish in this state with all of the special regs for each type of water. Can you imagine the size of the publications for all of the regs next year....
    "America is a country which produces citizens who will cross the ocean to fight for democracy but won't cross the street to vote."

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    Just a heads up.... If you're relying on the available publications on-line from DFG, be careful to read both; the maps and regulations. In reading recreational regs and checking out the map for south coast area MLPAs, I found that they don't match. For example, a regulated area for Point Fermin appears in the regs but not on the map. I haven't made that comparison on the other MLPAs, yet....
    "America is a country which produces citizens who will cross the ocean to fight for democracy but won't cross the street to vote."

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Lee View Post
    250 miles of coast ..... take your flyrod out to C&R a few Perch , you are a criminal -

    http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2010/...google search.

    D.~
    Pull a snail off the bottom in the wrong spot, pull kelp, collect a sea shell too.

    Who loves ya baby? Here is a link to the MLPA closure areas. I'll let you guys vet it.

    http://spearboard.com/attachment.php...4&d=1205892023

    I will refrain from posting my opinions about the MLPA. Research it if you are interested and I hope the link works for you.

    MN

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    Default MLPA

    This process has been so corrupt! My new thoughts about winning the lottery would
    be to afford a legal team to take it to the higher courts. The conflicts of interest
    are just outrageous.
    Larry S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hairstacker View Post
    Wow, that's just unbelievable. PaulC, did you just lose your fishing spot?
    We will lose a couple spots in my neck of the woods.
    Earlier proposals were a bit more scary than what is currently on the slate to be implemented.
    There were some SMRs that were in SMCA clothing, etc.

    The angling community down here did put up a pretty good fight, but unfortunately much of this was going to railroad through despite any logical arguments for lack of funding, slot limits, how to enforce, lack of any historical scientific data on proposed areas of closure, etc.

    A friend put it best a while back, MLPA = Most Likely Poaching Areas.
    We have DFG officers down here that are great, but spread thin.
    I run into one maybe once every 3-5 years and I'm out there quite a bit.

    It could have been worse, and hopefully angling groups will fight this through the courts.


    -Paul
    Last edited by PaulC; 02-15-2011 at 11:07 PM.

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    Post Next Step....

    RFP's for monitoring and.... Following is an excerpt of text from an e-mail received from "the team". Check it out:

    "South Coast MPA Baseline Program Request for Proposals
    Proposal due date: 5:00 pm PDT, Thursday, April 7, 2011

    California Sea Grant is pleased to announce a Request for Proposals (RFP) for California's South Coast Marine Protected Areas (MPA) Baseline Program.
    The South Coast MPA Baseline Program is a collaborative effort among the State Coastal Conservancy, California Ocean Protection Council (OPC), California Department of Fish and Game, MPA Monitoring Enterprise (a program of the California Ocean Science Trust) and California Sea Grant. The OPC has authorized up to $4,000,000 to support the Baseline Program.
    Proposals are requested for projects that contribute to meeting the purposes of the Baseline Program, which are:
    1. 1. To provide a summary description, assessment and understanding of ecological and socioeconomic conditions in the South Coast region, inside and outside MPAs designated under the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA), at or near the time of MPA implementation; and
    2. 2. To measure initial ecological changes and the short-run net benefits or costs to consumptive and non-consumptive user groups following MPA implementation.
    Project Duration: Awards are expected to be made in July 2011. Proposals will be accepted for projects of any duration, but projects must be completed no later than March 31, 2014."


    The two items shown as deliverables are high level but seem a bit of an overreach. Assessing/understanding "....the socioeconomic conditions in the South Coast Region, inside and outside MPA's...." probably won't result in any useful info for the purpose of "the team" but there's $4 million available for some lucky bidders.

    Wait a while. After finishing off the north coast, "the team" is heading for San Francisco Bay....
    "America is a country which produces citizens who will cross the ocean to fight for democracy but won't cross the street to vote."

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    Looking at the home page for the OPC, I find that one of the two "public members" is
    Susan Golding. Former mayor and one of the leading architects of San Diego's
    financial problems. Also, a member of a Blue Ribbon Committee during the MLPA
    process. My gawd! What a game of musical chairs these people play. Pogo was right -
    "we have met the enemy and he is us."

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