New CDFW Freshwater Fishing Regulations 2021-22?

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03-01-2021, 10:08 AM
GLC

New CDFW Freshwater Fishing Regulations 2021-22?

Does anyone know where I can find the new adopted 2021-2022 Freshwater Fishing Regulations effective March 1, 2021 online? CDFW has gone paperless with the regulations booklet, and I can't seem to find any updated regulations.

There were a lot of new regulations proposals floating around the last few years, but I'm not sure what actually was approved.

I did read on Ken's Sporting Goods website the new adopted changes effective March 1, 2021 for Inyo/Mono counties. The East Walker is now back to the old regs- opens last Saturday in April to November 15. So I would assume that these regulations are printed somewhere, but I can't find them on CDFW's website.
03-01-2021, 01:34 PM
tcorfey

Adopted regulation language changes 11-5-20

https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.a...=184632&inline
https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.a...=184632&inline

CCRs current as of 2/12/2021

https://govt.westlaw.com/calregs/Bro...efault)&bhcp=1
03-01-2021, 02:22 PM
GLC

Thanks tcorfey for the links you provided. However https://govt.westlaw.com/calregs/Bro...efault)&bhcp=1 appears to be for regulations pre March 1, 2021. I was searching for the adopted regulation changes from March 1, 2021 forward. This is all I have found to date on the CDFW site: https://wildlife.ca.gov/Regulations "NEW Ocean and Freshwater Fishing Regulations will be posted on or before March 1, when the 2021-2022 regulations take effect". The new Ocean regulations are posted, but not the new Freshwater regulations. Either I'm missing the link or technically CDFW has to the end of today to post per the above statement.

Seems odd to me that CDFW changed, from a papered regulation booklet to a online only regulations, and has not provided those regulations prior to the change date.

Maybe they're busy helping out the California EDD and DMV with their fiasco's or it can always be blamed on COVID and budget cuts.
03-01-2021, 03:01 PM
marks

I think this is the link you're looking for:

https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.a...=190456&inline
03-01-2021, 03:04 PM
GLC

Thanks marks, that was what i was looking for.
03-01-2021, 04:15 PM
Norcal_Flyfisherman

They simplified the regulations and made them more complicated? I'm confused by the multiple table thing they have going on.
03-01-2021, 04:29 PM
Larry S

Perhaps marks' link should be made a "sticky."
Thanks, marks!

Best to all,
Larry S
Sun Diego
03-01-2021, 10:23 PM
PV_Premier

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcal_Flyfisherman

They simplified the regulations and made them more complicated? I'm confused by the multiple table thing they have going on.

It’s a total mess. I couldn’t believe it when I was looking at it earlier.
03-02-2021, 07:18 AM
StevenB

DFW now has them posted on the web site

https://wildlife.ca.gov/Regulations

Oh boy, gonna take some studying.

Most significant to me is that the McCloud is now open year-round.

Most significant to many people (I think) is that the general trout season is now

Sat. preceding Memorial Day through Sep. 30

Note DFW will no longer be printing reg booklets, you gotta get them online now.

Great, do a major change to the Regs and then make them harder to get.

I guess everyone has a smart phone these days and can download the stuff.

Still I do not like the change.
03-02-2021, 09:21 AM
Norcal_Flyfisherman

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenB

https://wildlife.ca.gov/Regulations

Oh boy, gonna take some studying.

Most significant to me is that the McCloud is now open year-round.

Most significant to many people (I think) is that the general trout season is now

Sat. preceding Memorial Day through Sep. 30

Note DFW will no longer be printing reg booklets, you gotta get them online now.

Great, do a major change to the Regs and then make them harder to get.

I guess everyone has a smart phone these days and can download the stuff.

Still I do not like the change.

I like most of the changes, there is now A LOT more water open year round for fishing access. I think they must have had the IRS and DMV get together to work on making it simple though.
03-02-2021, 09:33 AM
ARichcrook

“”There were a lot of new regulations proposals floating around the last few years, but I'm not sure what actually was approved.

I did read on Ken's Sporting Goods website the new adopted changes effective March 1, 2021 for Inyo/Mono counties. The East Walker is now back to the old regs- opens last Saturday in April to November 15. So I would assume that these regulations are printed somewhere, but I can't find them on CDFW's website.”

The new regs for the East Walker also do NOT mention barbless hooks any longer WTF ???
Rich
03-02-2021, 11:17 AM
StevenB

Opps, I think I got it wrong about general trout season

So It looks like the end-of-May to Sept season is only on waters in the special Regs section.

general state wide trout season (for take) is still end-of-April thru Nov 15.
and now all waters not listed in special regs are open year round.

here is a cut/paste of the relevant section:

Have I got it right?

(a) General Statewide Regulations: (1) All inland lakes and reservoirs; and ponds entirely on private lands, except those listed in Section 7.50 (b), are open to fishing all year with a five-trout daily bag limit, and 10 trout possession limit.(2) All inland streams, rivers, and canals, except those listed in Section 7.50 (b), are open to fishing from the last Sat. in Apr. through Nov. 15, with a five trout daily bag limit, and ten trout possession limit, with no gear restrictions. From Nov. 16 through the Fri. preceding the last Sat. in Apr., a zero trout bag limit applies, and only artificial lures with barbless hooks may be used. In waters where the bag limit for trout is zero, trout must be released unharmed, and should not be removed from the water. (3) Exceptions: (A) All waters in Section 7.50 (b), Alphabetical List of Trout Waters with Special Fishing Regulations,are those having regulations different from the General Statewide Regulations for trout.(B) Brook Trout bag and possession limits may be taken in addition to the statewide trout daily bag and possession limits. See Section 5.84.
03-02-2021, 12:01 PM
Norcal_Flyfisherman

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenB

So It looks like the end-of-May to Sept season is only on waters in the special Regs section.

general state wide trout season (for take) is still end-of-April thru Nov 15.
and now all waters not listed in special regs are open year round.

here is a cut/paste of the relevant section:

Have I got it right?

(a) General Statewide Regulations: (1) All inland lakes and reservoirs; and ponds entirely on private lands, except those listed in Section 7.50 (b), are open to fishing all year with a five-trout daily bag limit, and 10 trout possession limit.(2) All inland streams, rivers, and canals, except those listed in Section 7.50 (b), are open to fishing from the last Sat. in Apr. through Nov. 15, with a five trout daily bag limit, and ten trout possession limit, with no gear restrictions. From Nov. 16 through the Fri. preceding the last Sat. in Apr., a zero trout bag limit applies, and only artificial lures with barbless hooks may be used. In waters where the bag limit for trout is zero, trout must be released unharmed, and should not be removed from the water. (3) Exceptions: (A) All waters in Section 7.50 (b), Alphabetical List of Trout Waters with Special Fishing Regulations,are those having regulations different from the General Statewide Regulations for trout.(B) Brook Trout bag and possession limits may be taken in addition to the statewide trout daily bag and possession limits. See Section 5.84.

I think you have it right from my interpretation, I believe the Nov-April season is catch and release and barbless only. I think I noticed some special reg waters with a Memorial Day to Feb season.

Question: Does (B) Brook Trout bag and possession limits may be taken in addition to the statewide trout daily bag and possession limits. See Section 5.84. mean that you can keep 5 trout plus 10 brook trout?
03-02-2021, 03:09 PM
PV_Premier

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcal_Flyfisherman

Question: Does (B) Brook Trout bag and possession limits may be taken in addition to the statewide trout daily bag and possession limits. See Section 5.84. mean that you can keep 5 trout plus 10 brook trout?

Yes, this is the correct interpretation as far as I can tell.

I have never liked the way the regs were written in CA, but this is a new low in terms of their clarity and readability.

As I was reading this last night I felt it was almost easier to just do what I thought was right and risk a ticket than trying to actually understand some of these regs. They are really messy.

About all that can be done about it is to go on record in the public comment of the next FGC meeting in mid-April with displeasure and suggestions for improvement.
03-02-2021, 04:49 PM
Norcal_Flyfisherman

Quote:

Originally Posted by PV_Premier

Yes, this is the correct interpretation as far as I can tell.

I have never liked the way the regs were written in CA, but this is a new low in terms of their clarity and readability.

As I was reading this last night I felt it was almost easier to just do what I thought was right and risk a ticket than trying to actually understand some of these regs. They are really messy.

About all that can be done about it is to go on record in the public comment of the next FGC meeting in mid-April with displeasure and suggestions for improvement.

I like that more water is open year round, I am very happy about that. I can't believe how complicated they made fishing regulations though. Are they competing with the tax code?
03-04-2021, 04:36 PM
Mike Bosworth

Can someone clarify the McCloud river regulations below McCloud reservoir for me:

This is how it currently reads in the new regulations:

(G) McCloud River from McCloud Dam downstream to confluence of Ladybug Creek.

Sat. preceding Memorial Day through Sep. 30. Only artificial lures may be used.

Oct. 1 through the Fri. preceding Memorial Day. Only artificial lures with barbless hooks may be used.

Does this mean that the river is technically open for fishing right now or will it open on the Saturday preceding Memorial Day and these regulations will take effect at this point going forward?

Has anyone heard how The Nature Conservancy will manage angler access on that section of water?

Thank you.
03-04-2021, 06:18 PM
GLC

Yes, my interpretation is that the McCloud river below McCloud reservoir is now "Open" with 0 trout taken. The regulations state effective March 1, 2021.

This is the main reason I was looking for the new adopted regulations online before March 1, because some locations (East Walker for one) are now closed effective March 1,2021 and others like the McCloud and others are now open effective that date.

CDFW did finally post these new regulations on their website on Monday afternoon March 1, 2021. Seems like the 11th hour posting for this many changes to the regulations....Oh well, I'll stop my rant now and go fish some of these new "" waters.
03-05-2021, 12:32 AM
Steve S

New and improved supervised decay.
03-05-2021, 07:22 AM
StevenB

McCloud

Ya, GLC got it right, McCloud is now open to fishing (as of March 1) and will be open year round with a 2 fish take allowed above
Ladybug creek during the summer season (Sat Preceding Memorial day to Sept 30) and 0 limit in the winter season
Oct. 1 through the Fri. preceding Memorial Day.

Below Ladybug Creek downstream to Shasta Lake is year-round artificial barbless 0 limit.

What I find interesting is that in the interest of simplification (HA-HA) there is now two different Artificial designations.

During the summer "take" season the Regs say "Only artificial lures may be used"

In the winter no take season above ladybug and year round below ladybug it says
"Only artificial lures with barbless hooks may be used."

so sometimes you can have barbs and sometimes you can not.
I always fish barbless so it will not impact me, but does seem like confusion is possible.

Last I heard (a couple of weeks ago) the Nature Conservancy has not yet made any decisions on how they will handle access with the new Regs.
03-05-2021, 08:35 AM
Mike Bosworth

Thank you GLC and Steven.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenB

Ya, GLC got it right, McCloud is now open to fishing (as of March 1) and will be open year round with a 2 fish take allowed above
Ladybug creek during the summer season (Sat Preceding Memorial day to Sept 30) and 0 limit in the winter season
Oct. 1 through the Fri. preceding Memorial Day.

Below Ladybug Creek downstream to Shasta Lake is year-round artificial barbless 0 limit.

What I find interesting is that in the interest of simplification (HA-HA) there is now two different Artificial designations.

During the summer "take" season the Regs say "Only artificial lures may be used"

In the winter no take season above ladybug and year round below ladybug it says
"Only artificial lures with barbless hooks may be used."

so sometimes you can have barbs and sometimes you can not.
I always fish barbless so it will not impact me, but does seem like confusion is possible.

Last I heard (a couple of weeks ago) the Nature Conservancy has not yet made any decisions on how they will handle access with the new Regs.