I gave up on this thread some time ago....
as it was originally about introducing some recent/new study information for consideration. The source of the study was immediately denounced as non-credible. In spite of that it actually started out very well with some participants providing links to info that made it informative. Unfortunately, I knew that the longer it kept going the more off track it would become but had no idea it'd be as bad as it became (including exchanges of hostile PM's).
"Am I that naive here, or can we not all agree to that much?"
After going through a number of these over the years that I've been on this BB, I think I can safely say that there's not a lot of anything in the Salmon/Steelhead Forum that is open for objective discussion or subject to agreement by all. Maybe it's a good thing that we can't all agree but I regret that objective consideration/discussion can't take place. There's just way too much us vs them emotion involved. Seems like these things all become train wrecks. Under normal circumstances and since I don't fish for Steelhead any longer, I would've stayed away from posting in this forum. Guess I lost my head for a minute.... ;)
Considering some of the things you mention were posted in this thread and not deleted, I'm guessing that there's no longer a moderator for the BB. Kinda looks like open season. :(