Highway 20 access on the lower Yuba river.

Interesting, from what it would appear, they might have a lease on the property that was formerly accessible by the public on Parks Bar Road, and all the way up to end of the quarry. Much of that would be public property, as it would be below the 100 year median high water mark for much of the year. The current problem is that landowners are saying that there is no public access to that land. Depends on the Hwy. 20 easement issue.

His map is very general to say the least.

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Interesting, from what it would appear, they might have a lease on the property that was formerly accessible by the public on Parks Bar Road, and all the way up to end of the quarry. Much of that would be public property, as it would be below the 100 year median high water mark for much of the year. The current problem is that landowners are saying that there is no public access to that land. Depends on the Hwy. 20 easement issue.

His map is very general to say the least.

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I believe it's access through someone's property to the river. Though I'm not exactly sure where it specifically is, I think it's the same location Ron Speroni used to launch from decades ago when there were only a handful of guides drifting the river. I remember the days when the only guides you ever regularly saw with clients on the river were Speroni, Bill Lowe, Mike Bias, Popeye, Perry.......

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Interesting, from what it would appear, they might have a lease on the property that was formerly accessible by the public on Parks Bar Road, and all the way up to end of the quarry. Much of that would be public property, as it would be below the 100 year median high water mark for much of the year. The current problem is that landowners are saying that there is no public access to that land. Depends on the Hwy. 20 easement issue.

His map is very general to say the least.

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Look, there's no HWY 20 easement "issue". There IS an easement for Hwy 20 including the area under the new bridge. The only issue is the illegal gate and why the County and State hasn't done anything about it.

I got a text from a random number today about this thread, and I couldn't be more grateful the work you have put in, Amoeba.
I agree that this is a transparency issue and something feels very off, my research also showed the Hwy easement existing and the gate placed on a public road with no notification or indication that it was put up by the County.

The best course of action would probably be to attend the County Board Meetings (https://agendasuite.org/iip/yuba) and get a 501c3 group involved.

Re. Yuba Access
The manager of the Yuba River Anglers private water upstream from the Hwy 20 bridge just provided me with
an explanation of the closures and the public access that is now available. I've posted it on the California Fly Fishing Reports website. Click below if you would like to read it.
https://www.californiaflyfishingrepo...ba-access-info

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I got a text from a random number today about this thread, and I couldn't be more grateful the work you have put in, Amoeba.
I agree that this is a transparency issue and something feels very off, my research also showed the Hwy easement existing and the gate placed on a public road with no notification or indication that it was put up by the County.

The best course of action would probably be to attend the County Board Meetings (https://agendasuite.org/iip/yuba) and get a 501c3 group involved.

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What’s to stop someone from parking on the Hwy ( just west of bridge) and simply walking down ( on the bridge easement-which goes to the water) and fishing? If I have an easement, I’m going-regardless of a gate and a sign

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Interesting, from what it would appear, they might have a lease on the property that was formerly accessible by the public on Parks Bar Road, and all the way up to end of the quarry. Much of that would be public property, as it would be below the 100 year median high water mark for much of the year. The current problem is that landowners are saying that there is no public access to that land. Depends on the Hwy. 20 easement issue.

His map is very general to say the least.

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There's no lease possible of a County Road. There is a permanent lease of the land under the new bridge below OHW, conveyed to the State (CalTrans) by the State Lands Commission (SLC). The rerouting of HWY 20 occupies another 35 acre lease from SLC. There is a split a few 100 feet from old HWY 20 that goes under the bridge that is only Parks Bar Road and I'm not certain, but, I believe that is also County Land, NOT Nordic or other private property. It actually may be within OHW, and the SLC lease. However, even if it is, the SLC cannot enforce the gate blocking access because it is not immediately adjacent to the lease. Enforcement of the blocking of legal access, under other laws like CDFW code 2008, would have to be done by others such as CDFW itself or the County. CDFW has yet to respond to my Clips complaint, and the County has been uncooperative at all levels.

Amoeba,

Great in depth information here. This seems to continue down the path of stonewalling outside influence from the “Old Boys” local political network. I am convinced that local landowners and agencies were fed up in dealing with the elements hanging around these areas of the river, and have just gone ahead solved it in the quickest manner possible. The stonewalling and lack of response to your inquiries validates this to me anyways. Very interesting how things operate. Again, some people know much more than they are letting out or revealing on this matter.

Sounds like a pair of bolt cutters will solve this problem and when you inevitably get a trespass charge, you can bring it up to the judge. Unfortunately, it sounds like the county doesn't want to bother and a little malicious compliance will go a long ways here.

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There's no lease possible of a County Road. There is a permanent lease of the land under the new bridge below OHW, conveyed to the State (CalTrans) by the State Lands Commission (SLC). The rerouting of HWY 20 occupies another 35 acre lease from SLC. There is a split a few 100 feet from old HWY 20 that goes under the bridge that is only Parks Bar Road and I'm not certain, but, I believe that is also County Land, NOT Nordic or other private property. It actually may be within OHW, and the SLC lease. However, even if it is, the SLC cannot enforce the gate blocking access because it is not immediately adjacent to the lease. Enforcement of the blocking of legal access, under other laws like CDFW code 2008, would have to be done by others such as CDFW itself or the County. CDFW has yet to respond to my Clips complaint, and the County has been uncooperative at all levels.

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last line should say "CalTips" complaint, autocorrect error. The Warden is Sean Pirtle who is local (Brownsville); has yet to respond back to me. It's been a month I think. It was not anonymous and I requested a call back. Jmac has texted me recently and we will talk when we are both back from various places/activities.