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chapmag
10-25-2021, 08:42 PM
Hi,

I've worn through my previous model of Simms G3 Guide boots (the brown ones with leather) with rubber soles and a combination of studs and Simms star cleats. I loved the uppers and the midsoles. I've walked miles and miles along the Upper Sac and Truckee railroad tracks in total comfort. The uppers have taken four years of abuse with only some restitching and some regluing of the rubber toe cap.

I hated having to carry extra star cleats and screws and a screwdriver to continually tighten the screws or replace cleats that had fallen out. Aquaseal didn't keep the screws in the soles for me.

I'm looking for advice between the current Simms G4 and G3 models. I'm wondering if the threaded inserts in the soles of the G4 keep the star cleats in the boot or if (my guess) the inserts eventually fall out of the sole. I'm also wondering if there is a comfort or performance difference between the G3 and G4 models.

All advice welcome. Thanks.

Bill Markwood
10-26-2021, 07:20 AM
I use the Simms Hardbite Studs and haven't had any problem with them coming loose or falling out.

Terry Thomas
10-26-2021, 07:48 AM
Orvis PosiGrip studs. Have them on the same boots and my new G4’s.

chapmag
10-26-2021, 03:34 PM
Terry,

Do you ignore the threaded inserts in the G4?

What are the pluses/minuses between your old G3s and your G4s? Any experience with the new G3s?

Terry Thomas
10-27-2021, 09:12 AM
I use them with felt bottoms. The G-4’s are much easier to get into and out of. I bought longer shoe laces because the stock laces are too short.

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Bob G
10-28-2021, 08:01 PM
When Terry Thomas talks, I always listen! Several years ago Terry recommended the Orvis PosiGrip Studs to me and they have been great. Best, Bob

chapmag
10-31-2021, 03:59 PM
Thanks Terry.

I'll drop by Kiene's this week and try the G4s out.