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Bill Kiene semi-retired
02-07-2020, 08:02 AM
https://tubitv.com/movies/189479/rivers_of_a_lost_coast?utm_source=google-feed&tracking=google-feed


You can watch it here free on "tubitv" and send it to friends......


Every time I watch this I learn something new.

I am in it in several spots in some of Joe Shirshac's old Super 8 movies.


I am in the movie from 06.00 to 07.00 in waders......first is at Sailor Bar in 1970s.......... next on Trinity river in Nov 1982.

avidangler
02-10-2020, 04:33 PM
Every time I've watched this video I get disappointed with that generation of guys who didn't appreciate what they had and had to be John Wayne. It also saddens me how the army corps diverted every single stream in California. So tragic.

avidangler
02-10-2020, 04:35 PM
Not to mention those greedy logging practices coupled with the floods. Will humans ever learn?

Larry S
02-10-2020, 05:46 PM
Actually, the Smith remains fairly pristine. Some mining threats. IMHO, it should have been the first
river for catch and release, due to its one-time healthy natives. So thankful for my years spent
there.
Best to all,
Larry S
Sum Diego

Bill Kiene semi-retired
02-10-2020, 08:51 PM
Would be nice to have one wild undammed steelhead and salmon river?

The Smith river could be catch-n-release, artificials only, single barbless hook and no steelhead or salmon hatchery.

One wild river?

The Smith river has the largest steelhead and largest salmon average size in California.
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avidangler
02-10-2020, 08:58 PM
The Mattole already has that distinction. If we really wanna make it wild then no fishing no development get rid of all the houses there and close the roads!! BTW will that slide on the Mattole ever clear? It's awful.

Bill Kiene semi-retired
02-10-2020, 09:17 PM
I like your thinking....the Mattole is so remote that it makes sense.

One undammed completely wild river to save for mankind.

avidangler
02-11-2020, 09:54 AM
But it isn't working,is it? I mean I like the thinking of it but the reality is the steelhead are still declining. It has to do with habitat degradation,and ocean conditions,climate change,but the bottom line is most of the people will never sacrifice what they would have to in order to facilitate change. Most people could care less about the fish,or the environment. I'm sure many do. I know I am about to get in my car and drive to work. I can't go back to the 1700's when everything was pristine. We have to do the best we can with what we have,and the odds seem insurmountable to me. What can we do? I guess conservation work is something,but is it too little too late?

Bill Kiene semi-retired
02-11-2020, 12:41 PM
I heard from someone in the CA F&W, some years ago, that they can not have 'catch-n-release' for Steelhead and salmon on the North

Coast rivers because the local conventional anglers would never let it happen.

I think removing dams is good.

World wide, agriculture is destroying many waterways today by pollution of all types and de-watering.

Logging 'was' one of the big culprits.

'Stray" wild salmon and steelhead can repopulate rivers that have had the dams removed.

I think wild steelhead and salmon recovery is a slow process.


I have personally noticed that fisheries are plummeting in the last few year in California and Florida.

It almost feels like an extermination at times?


In Florida I have heard it is "Big Sugar" that is running it's afluence in to the huge famous Lake Okeechobee.

Then when they get big rains they let that polluted water out in large canals to the West and East coasts killing everything.


California has a campaign against non-native fish trying to eliminate bass of all types.

Stripers and Largemouth bass and more are targeted.



As we know the CA F&W has nothing to say in this area...only politicians.