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RSK
04-12-2019, 07:12 PM
I haven't actually had a chance to research what exactly the ban would include but I thought this might affect fly tying materials. From what I heard on the radio sheeps wool and cow leather are exempt. How about the furs we tie with?
Maybe someone from the shop would know if this will affect them and the tyers in CA if it passes.

Russell

Bill Kiene semi-retired
04-12-2019, 11:46 PM
Yes, I heard it too but never connected? Wow.....might be a game changer?

Sheepdog8404
04-13-2019, 08:50 AM
Which AB are you referring to?

Ralph
04-13-2019, 09:37 AM
"The ban would apply only to the sale and manufacture of products including, but not limited to clothing, handbags, shoes, slippers, hats, or key chains." Slippery slope.

Carl Blackledge
04-13-2019, 11:57 AM
Thanks Ralph

Larry S
04-13-2019, 03:48 PM
Ralph,
Love the wording; "only to" followed shortly by "but not limited to." Ah, these pesky politicians!
Best,
Larry S
Sun Diego

Bill Kiene semi-retired
04-13-2019, 07:50 PM
Up in the North in the winter people set traps for over 200 years to catch wild animals for their hides.

As a teenager Joe Shirshac talked about getting hides in the winter to make a little money before World War II in Connecticut.


In the 1970s I would go to a place in Sacramento that bought and sold wild animal hides.

I would buy a beaver, some muskrats, a badger, fox, some deer, elk and moose.

They also had rabbits....I think they were a dollar?


In 1975 when I started the first fly shop in Sacramento I made this low table with a 4 x 8 foot sheet of plywood.

That old table was finally retired after about 40 some years.

We put the hides on the table and cut them into pieces that we put into zip lock bags and wrote the name and a price by hand on a

blank tag and stuck it on the bag, then we punched a hole at the top and put it on a peg board hook.


The old fly tying supply businesses in the 1960s were the Hackle House and Hash's Herl and Hackle.

My packages were twice as big as theirs for about the same price.

Back then there was no blended natural dubbing or blended synthetic dubbing available.

We sold little coffee bean grinders for fur blenders.


Then along came Hareline and Wapsi fly tying material houses.

Today you can just buy everything and just put a price and bare code on it.

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RSK
04-15-2019, 08:36 PM
Glad to hear it is not going to be an issue yet, and thanks for those who took the time to look a littel closer. Looks like it could be coming and the flys we by and tie are not even a blip on the radar.
Was still getting allot of shop packaged fur when I started tying. Like the reminiscing and history Bill.
Coming into the state we are looking foreward to "Do you have any fruit, ammo, standard capacity magazines, or flies or flie tying material."