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BumpBailey
10-03-2017, 08:07 AM
I've been thinking about getting one of those trout spey rods. Leaning towards the Echo TR 11'3 4 wt. Thinking about using it for half-pounders and for streamer fishing on the Truckee or Trinity during the summer months.

Question? What are most people lining these with? I have a 7wt spey and a 6w switch that are both set up with Skagit systems. Should I set this up the same way? There is one shop offering a free shooting head with the Rod. If I go that route am I correct in assuming all I need to fish it is some backing and running line?

Dragking
10-03-2017, 11:33 AM
I haven't cast it, but I've heard nothing but rave reviews of that rod. I think most people set these up with either skagit heads and sink tips (for streamers/bigger stuff) or a scandi line and versaleader (for buggy/smaller stuff). It seems like most people fishing it with skagit lines are using the new, very short heads (e.g., OPST Commando or Airflo Scout). Here is a line recommendation chart from echo: http://echoflyfishing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/2017-RodLine-Weight-Recommendations.pdf

You will need backing, running line, head and tip/leader (that goes for the skagit and scandi setups, but the backing and running line would be the same for each).

Hope that helps.

Mark Kranhold
10-03-2017, 11:45 AM
Godshall skandit line! Or Rio scandi body, but not sure if they go that low in grain weights

Terry Thomas
10-03-2017, 05:49 PM
Also like the Río Scandi body. Use the 5wt on my Winston Micro Spey #4.

NCL
10-04-2017, 11:55 AM
I use a 360 grain skagit on my 4 weight Micro spey and my works. I need to check that Rio scandi body that was mentioned.

PV_Premier
10-06-2017, 08:53 AM
another vote for Rio Scandi body and a 10' VL. i have a redington dually #5 use that set up for hackles/skaters and then a OPST commando for heavier stuff. seems to handle both reasonably well. i've got a few other heads i haven't tried on the rod yet.

i like the #5 as it goes well between small water steelhead, big trout, and i also use it at Pyramid for indicator fishing a bit. for the latter i use a #6 rio indicator line or a #5 integrated switch line both of which roll cast pretty nicely. i would feel undergunned on anything but trout and half pounders with a #4 rod.

Woodman
03-05-2018, 07:57 PM
Rio has information for most current rods on their website.

http://cdn-tp2.mozu.com/15440-m1/cms/files/13a7740e-03d7-41d7-958d-7011ede31744

and for older rods

http://cdn-tp2.mozu.com/15440-m1/cms/files/ea6db6af-e2d4-4398-ac77-c0e5f6f5d11f

JasonB
03-05-2018, 09:07 PM
I love fishing lightweight #4 and #5 switch rods a lot! For what you are describing, I personally would want a totally different set up personally, so take the following with a grain of salt. For half pounders I love the opportunity to hook fish on the lightest possible floating line, just because it’s such a rare treat to e able to fish that way and have semi frequent connections with aggressive fish. I have moved away from weighted flies or poly leaders for probably 99% of my HP fishing, and I’m still trending more and more towards the surface... For those purposes, it’s pretty hard to beat a good old fashioned Scandi head. I’d guess maybe in the 225-250 grain window for that rod?

For streamers, I guess it really, really depends how big and heavy you want to go, but a shorter Skagit type head offers some pretty big advantages. Particularly for bigger stuff, or if you are looking to do much stripping presentations. If you are talking smaller/ slower offerings, swinging, etc, then the Scandi body lines are perfect, I love the intermediate coupled with a super fast sinking poly leader (usually a 12’) and use it a fair bit for trout and a lot more swinging for shad! I do think they make a #4 Scandi body, but I only have the #5 (so far).

MrMoonlite
03-06-2018, 09:08 AM
Another vote for the Rio Scandi body. Will throw sinking versileaders and pretty big flies. Casts like a laser and cuts thru wind but lands lighter than a skagit. Lots of good skagit lines like the Commando or Scout heads or the new SA SpeyLite integrated lines if integrated is a possible. I still really like the Wulff Ambush integrated and now they have a short version. The Echo & Rio line charts seem to be reliable and even offer an "A" or "B" grain option if you need info on grain match ups. Lots of good choices like never before.

Trouter925
03-06-2018, 09:40 AM
Echo website recommends 360 grain Skagit.

If you're only going to have one system, my vote would be for Skagit with mono running line. I use the Airflo Skagit Scout and love it. I would just buy another head Scandi / Rage / Ambush for smaller fly / floating line work.

Larry S
03-06-2018, 02:52 PM
I have Echo's 3-wt glass switch rod; 10' 6" . Use both a Rio Skagit shooting head 225 grain, 17-feet and the Airflo Scandi
Compact, 240 grain . A bit heavier than the same rod in graphite, but lots of fun for 1/2 the price.
Best,
Larry S
Sun Diego

BumpBailey
03-07-2018, 10:13 AM
I wet with the Rio In Touch Switch Chucker. Long leader and soft hackles made for a lot of fun with the 1/2 pounders on the Klammath that week. I also have a spare spool set up with a skagit system. Haven't used it yet though....

tascaso
03-07-2018, 11:18 AM
I have a 3wt trout spey and use the Steve Godshall Scandi line that came with it. I have used a OPST Commando and one of the newer Rio Trout Spey Skagit's, and they both did very well. 90% of the time I just use the SGS Scandi line, it just flies so beautifully and does everything I want it to do.

Enjoy!

Dragking
03-08-2018, 05:33 PM
Skagit Scout 330 is great on that rod. 360 is too much. Not sure about Scandi.