best way to attach tippet

[joseph28]

What is the best way to attach tippet to leaders? I have not found a good way yet

[Fly Right]

What is the best way to attach tippet to leaders? I have not found a good way yet
I am warming up to the use of tippet rings. I started using them recently and found that it is very easy to change tippit. You just tie the tippet to the ring which is tied on to the end of the tapered leader and away you go. I use improved cinch knots for connecting any line to the ring. The big benefit for me is that the use of rings significantly increases the life of tapered leaders by eliminating the shortening effect from knot tying. They also seem to float well enough for dry fly fishing (never been an issue with me).

[Mr F]

The double surgeon knot works for me: http://www.animatedknots.com/surgeonsjoin/index.php?Categ=fishing&LogoImage=LogoGrog.png&Website=www.animatedknots.com#ScrollPoint

The blood knot is another good option: https://youtu.be/q-QGPzEKZKo

[joseph28]

The double surgeon knot works for me: http://www.animatedknots.com/surgeonsjoin/index.php?Categ=fishing&LogoImage=LogoGrog.png&Website=www.animatedknots.com#ScrollPoint

The blood knot is another good option: https://youtu.be/q-QGPzEKZKo

i have tried to use both of those before but they would just keep sliding off.

[joseph28]

I am warming up to the use of tippet rings. I started using them recently and found that it is very easy to change tippit. You just tie the tippet to the ring which is tied on to the end of the tapered leader and away you go. I use improved cinch knots for connecting any line to the ring. The big benefit for me is that the use of rings significantly increases the life of tapered leaders by eliminating the shortening effect from knot tying. They also seem to float well enough for dry fly fishing (never been an issue with me).

thanks, thats what i was leading towards.

[Idadon]

Used to be simple, double surgeon for mono to mono. Up jumps flouro and the double surgeon slips. Try a triple surgeon and leave a longer tag. I've actually tried a triple surgeon loop on the leader and tippet and go loop to loop. Lots of problems with that one if there's any vegetation in the water, same with leaving a longer tag at your knot. I'm now back to mono leaders and tippet!

[joseph28]

Used to be simple, double surgeon for mono to mono. Up jumps flouro and the double surgeon slips. Try a triple surgeon and leave a longer tag. I've actually tried a triple surgeon loop on the leader and tippet and go loop to loop. Lots of problems with that one if there's any vegetation in the water, same with leaving a longer tag at your knot. I'm now back to mono leaders and tippet!

thanks just tried it and it worked and kept me from having to buy tippet rings!

[JAWallace]

I use a faux blood knot, known as a speed blood knot. It's a helluva lot easier than a conventional blood knot, has good holding strength, and allows one to easily tie successively small diameter tippet in to the leader. It's on YouTube, very easy.

[Bill Kiene semi-retired]

First have some fresh nylon mono tapered leaders and mono tippet material that is the same brand to be safe.

If you have fluorocarbon mono it will last a long time.

The most popular knot today is the 'double surgeons'.

For finer tippets we use the 'triple surgeons'.

In heavier, larger diameters mono we use the old 'nail knot' or 'blood knot'.


What you use between the end of your fly line and your fly is a huge science that can make a big difference in your success as an angler.

There is lots of good info on this in books and videos.

If you can get to a seminar or class on the science of leader systems I would attend it.

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[Jeff C.]

Loop to loop with double or triple surgeon loop. Another alternative over tippet rings are small #12 or #14 swivels.

[Jeff F]

+1 Tippet Rings! Been using them for years now. One of the best "inventions" in fly fishing in the last 10 years, IMHO. I fish a lot, and with the rings, I can use a single leader for months, instead of having to put on a new leader every trip, or tie blood knots. And they don't affect dry fly fishing either.

Once you start using tippet rings, believe me......you'll never go back to tying blood knots. I really don't understand why everyone doesn't use them.

I take a brand new leader, snip off a foot or so, put on the ring, then tie on my tippet. Voila! One pack of rings will last you a couple seasons at least. And save you considerable $$ on buying leaders. Awesome product.

They also make them in steelhead size too. On cold rainy days, with freezing fingers, you won't have to attempt to tie a blood knot streamside. And that's worth the price of them alone.

[EricO]

+2 Tippet Rings.

Best damn product ever. This summer, we were fishing a stream and using three
methods...streamers, dries and nymphs. So being able to put on 3x flouro for buggers,
then switch back to dries with 4x mono in a snap using the tippet rings was perfect
and saves tons of time.

Eric

[goby]

I agree with everything Jeff said. Tippet rings are amazing.


+1 Tippet Rings! Been using them for years now. One of the best "inventions" in fly fishing in the last 10 years, IMHO. I fish a lot, and with the rings, I can use a single leader for months, instead of having to put on a new leader every trip, or tie blood knots. And they don't affect dry fly fishing either.

Once you start using tippet rings, believe me......you'll never go back to tying blood knots. I really don't understand why everyone doesn't use them.

I take a brand new leader, snip off a foot or so, put on the ring, then tie on my tippet. Voila! One pack of rings will last you a couple seasons at least. And save you considerable $$ on buying leaders. Awesome product.

They also make them in steelhead size too. On cold rainy days, with freezing fingers, you won't have to attempt to tie a blood knot streamside. And that's worth the price of them alone.

[goby]

i have tried to use both of those before but they would just keep sliding off.

I think you need to find someone to help you tie a knot. It shouldn't slide off.

[joseph28]

thanks to every one who replied i will be using tippet rings in the future.

I think you need to find someone to help you tie a knot. It shouldn't slide off.
i think you might be right i was probably doing it wrong but i did find that the triple surgeons works pretty well

[Carl Blackledge]

Loop to loop with double or triple surgeon loop. Another alternative over tippet rings are small #12 or #14 swivels.

Hey guys,

Just remember when your telling these new guys about triple surgeons loops, that means 6 times through....perhaps tell them to make an overhand knot and pull the material through 3 times? It can be very confusing to the new guys.

BTW I agree with the 3 turn overhand knot for the smaller stuff especially when you have the cold fingers, however if it's warm and I am not in a hurry I usually use the blood knot

My 2 cents

Carl

[Idadon]

Interesting! I was told some years ago by a well known Steelheader that 3 times thru the loop was a triple. I googled the knot and apparently it's either 3 or 6 times thru! One has to wonder how much strength is gained by the extra 3 times thru. A quick experiment with 30# Big Game (good shooting mono) using 6 times thru left me with something resembling a Monkey's Fist. Might have to work on this one I think. ??????


Thanks for the info!

[Carl Blackledge]

Interesting! I was told some years ago by a well known Steelheader that 3 times thru the loop was a triple. I googled the knot and apparently it's either 3 or 6 times thru! One has to wonder how much strength is gained by the extra 3 times thru. A quick experiment with 30# Big Game (good shooting mono) using 6 times thru left me with something resembling a Monkey's Fist. Might have to work on this one I think. ??????


Thanks for the info!

Idadon

I haven't ever tied a triple surgeons knot in 30 # Mono for the obvious reasons you just stated. I have tied hundreds of triple surgeons in Braid from #30 pound to #65 and the knot almost looks like a blood knot when tied correctly in Braid. Again for the small stuff I tie an overhand knot and pull the material thru 3 times, when completed it's a very ugly knot, however it's almost 100%, the blood knot in the same material is around 86%...my 2 cents

Carl Blackledge

[Lincoln Gray]

Try the splice knot! I use it in all my guiding!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=611JWRtkjOc

[njbeast]

love that tool. Been using it for years.

[johnsquires]

I've always used a blood knot. After reading all the comments on the tippet ring, I ordered some to take on the upcoming AK trip. Makes sense as far as ease and the "shortening factor." I'll just have to get over the mental deal about having something new in my terminal tackle.

[Rocksteady1]

Tippet rings have their place but I prefer a blood knot. Lower profile and stronger. Tippet rings, notoriously , create a weak link in your set up. It's not that the ring itself breaks but it does eventually start to fray he leader or tippet I can't tell you how many times I lost an entire three fly nymphing rig at the tippet ring after snagging.

[mems]

Triple surgeons