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Darian
09-12-2015, 01:48 PM
Just received the current issue of California Fly Fisher (Oct. 2015). As usual, lotsa good stuff in it. On page 40 there's an interesting article by Russell Chatham, "How to Catch at Least a Thousand Steelhead on a Fly in One Season in California", a lengthy and rather misleading title. I'm not going to give any spoiler alerts here. You need to read it. Good read, tho. After finishing the article I can see that Chatham and Walter have been secretly meeting for discussions. ;)

Ned Morris
09-14-2015, 12:25 PM
At least they both can back up their opinions which I can't say the same for others. People who have fished countless day and hours and continue to do so have insight most of us do not...including you and me.



Just received the current issue of California Fly Fisher (Oct. 2015). As usual, lotsa good stuff in it. On page 40 there's an interesting article by Russell Chatham, "How to Catch at Least a Thousand Steelhead on a Fly in One Season in California", a lengthy and rather misleading title. I'm not going to give any spoiler alerts here. You need to read it. Good read, tho. After finishing the article I can see that Chatham and Walter have been secretly meeting for discussions. ;)

Darian
09-14-2015, 01:09 PM
Agree with most of your thought.... Too bad you didn't find the intended humor in it.

Ned Morris
09-14-2015, 03:15 PM
Agree with most of your thought.... Too bad you didn't find the intended humor in it.

I agree your humor has always eluded me since it's always been for your own personal amusement. Should've just omitted last sentence but whatev you felt the need to write it.

Walter
09-14-2015, 08:23 PM
Just received the current issue of California Fly Fisher (Oct. 2015). As usual, lotsa good stuff in it. On page 40 there's an interesting article by Russell Chatham, "How to Catch at Least a Thousand Steelhead on a Fly in One Season in California", a lengthy and rather misleading title. I'm not going to give any spoiler alerts here. You need to read it. Good read, tho. After finishing the article I can see that Chatham and Walter have been secretly meeting for discussions. ;)

Ill have to check out the article. Yes, we share many of the same sentiments. If you see him coming while shad fishing though, leave if you want to catch shad. He is always trying to kill one for the roe and you will get skunked if he fishes next to you. Happened to me lots of times, lol. I dont see him steelhead fishing much...

I look forward to reading the article if I can get it before its gone.

Darian
09-14-2015, 11:46 PM
Ned,.... Maybe you should try not to read my comments/posts. Critique about humor coming from a guy who doesn't appear to have sense of humor just doesn't mean much.... To paraphrase you, give it a rest, you're not that cool. (no humor intended).

Ned Morris
09-15-2015, 09:10 AM
Ned,.... Maybe you should try not to read my comments/posts. Critique about humor coming from a guy who doesn't appear to have sense of humor just doesn't mean much.... To paraphrase you, give it a rest, you're not that cool. (no humor intended).

Listen Darian your posts precede you. For years your "know it all tone" has flooded this board including your comments about Walter and others now including myself. Clearly your ass is higher in the air than most of us and your intent on the last comment above should be met with skepticism given your prior engagements. You have a lot of time on your hands my suggestion is go fish more instead of bantering so much on this board and if you're too damn old and senile then "GIVE IT A REST, YOU'RE NOT THAT COOL!"

Darian
09-15-2015, 11:52 AM
Ned,.... I think it's safe to say neither of us particularly likes the other and I don't see that changing any time soon. So, why don't we just agree to avoid reading each others posts/comments and/or responding.... That way you won't be offended/upset....

Rick.H
09-16-2015, 02:56 PM
I liked the article although I'm not that much a fan of hearing about the good old days. The last paragraph was a surprise though...

Walter
09-28-2015, 08:22 PM
I liked the article although I'm not that much a fan of hearing about the good old days. The last paragraph was a surprise though...

And Ive been stuck out of civilization and still havent seen the article. Can you summarize it Darian? At least then I can laugh at the joke? I need a good laugh....

Darian
09-28-2015, 11:44 PM
Short version, to me the point was that fishing for Steelhead has gone to h__l in a hand basket and that recreational fishers/fishing doesn't really contribute to the catastrophic decline in numbers. Chatham lays the major part of the blame on destruction/lack of habitat. There's much more in it than that and I enjoyed the article. Chatham has expressed this view in much of his writings but he sounds a bit more strident these days. I'm a big fan of Chatham and have all of the books he wrote.

Walter, the intended humor was nothing more than that, as you observed, you and Chatham share similar, maybe not all points of view (I guess I do too). Sorry I can't offer much more.

Hope your need for humor isn't due to any major, negative life event....

Walter
10-06-2015, 06:19 AM
Thanks for the summary Darian. I've been on the ocean for weeks, its hard to get time to find the magazine when I get a day off. I'll try and call Russ and talk to him about it. I'm glad he wrote it. Hopefully the RRWSS pays attention. That's the Russian River Wild Steelhead Society. They need to stop helping Army Corps and DFW promote their current hatchery reality and press those agencies to better facilitate the recovery of Wild Fish. That requires a bypass around Lake Mendocino to restore access to prime spawning habitat, and restoring the tributaries in the Lower River. In my opinion, dumping some woody debris in the river or just on shore(like last time) only does so much in whats become a channelized drainage ditch of a middle and lower river....not that-that is all they do, but....