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itsbenlong
02-15-2015, 03:35 PM
I started to post this on a Yuba River post but decided it deserved a new thread because it has to do with so many posts where someone is just feeling good about there day on the water and posting a photo or 10 and someone else chimes in on there favorite spots, some in great detail......

I always get sucked into reading those posts and rarely get involved because it seems like some people just like to be contradictory or argue for the sake of arguing. Lol

I also respect everyone’s opinion and truly believe that most comments on these posts mean well but come across wrong. The downfall to these forums is there is no tone of voice and people often spout out things without thinking about how it might be perceived.

This always turns into a shit storm! lol

So, when I write a post like this, I always write it on a word form first and read it over when I am done. Then I cut and paste it into the forum.

Anyway! Here is my 2 cents about posting locations and telling other on what type of gear used, etc…

I love to fish and I usually don't post too many pics or even take any pics while fishing. Unless I catch a real nice one and someone is around to take a quick pic before I let it go.

However, I love to share what I know about a river to people who are not familiar with it. I don't usually do it in public on the web but I am not against it. I often find myself divulging this type of information to someone who is on the river when I am and just because I told them exactly what just worked for me doesn’t mean they are going to catch even one fish.

Posting on the web makes the odds even tougher.

The reason why it doesn't bother me is the fact that a photo showing even a giant background w/ included details of what flies were used really only works well if you were there at the same time on the same day doing the same thing.

There are so many factors that will change the outcome of someone that even has the ability to show up at that spot even as soon as the following day; flows, wind, temps, time of day, lighting, etc… and most importantly don’t forget technique and fly presentation. Plus, I can’t tell you how many times I have looked at a photo and tried to find an exact spot and once you get on the river, it looks nothing like you saw in the photo. Almost every photo you see is from the bank and most likely not in the exact place you hooked it. Most new fisherman to that piece of water will show up and try what you did without success and move on before it would even matter and those that don’t are most likely the type of person you would have just as much fun watching catch a fish than doing it yourself.

And really, so what if someone shows up because of a post. Most of them are not regulars on that piece of water and wouldn’t be around more than a day or two a season and that is only if what you showed them worked, which commonly does not.

I have always found that being on the move works best for me and on occasion I will work a spot for some time but will always have the next spot in the front of my mind. So, if I am on your favorite spot because I saw it on a photo or read it in a post, I won't be there for long. Unless, I am sleighing them! If that is the case, sorry brother, but today is my day and yours will come another time. At least on that spot.....lol

However, I have often caught some fish in a spot that I gave up to someone who was walking by with that aggravated look from not catching anything and instructed them on what I was doing until they caught something and left them to it after that.

These rivers are for everyone! If you have a special spot, get up early and get on it, hit it on weekdays or wait for it to free up. If fish are there and you know how to catch them, you will.

I have caught more fish just on the outskirts of lots of people than I can count and if you are looking for secret spots and solitude, the Yuba, American or any other valley river in California is not the place to find it. However, what you can do is fish the weekdays, improve your technique, try new area’s that people aren’t talking about. Either way, you will still be out on the water, which is what most of us are drawn too. That place where you can forget about everything else in your life just for a few hours of the day and enjoy the outdoors.

If you favorite spot is taken, practice casting until they move on! I know I can use that!

Okay, that was more like $10 dollars than 2 cents!!!

cdevine
02-15-2015, 04:12 PM
I started to post this on a Yuba River post but decided it deserved a new thread because it has to do with so many posts where someone is just feeling good about there day on the water and posting a photo or 10 and someone else chimes in on there favorite spots, some in great detail......

I always get sucked into reading those posts and rarely get involved because it seems like some people just like to be contradictory or argue for the sake of arguing. Lol

I also respect everyone’s opinion and truly believe that most comments on these posts mean well but come across wrong. The downfall to these forums is there is no tone of voice and people often spout out things without thinking about how it might be perceived.

This always turns into a shit storm! lol

So, when I write a post like this, I always write it on a word form first and read it over when I am done. Then I cut and paste it into the forum.

Anyway! Here is my 2 cents about posting locations and telling other on what type of gear used, etc…

I love to fish and I usually don't post too many pics or even take any pics while fishing. Unless I catch a real nice one and someone is around to take a quick pic before I let it go.

However, I love to share what I know about a river to people who are not familiar with it. I don't usually do it in public on the web but I am not against it. I often find myself divulging this type of information to someone who is on the river when I am and just because I told them exactly what just worked for me doesn’t mean they are going to catch even one fish.

Posting on the web makes the odds even tougher.

The reason why it doesn't bother me is the fact that a photo showing even a giant background w/ included details of what flies were used really only works well if you were there at the same time on the same day doing the same thing.

There are so many factors that will change the outcome of someone that even has the ability to show up at that spot even as soon as the following day; flows, wind, temps, time of day, lighting, etc… and most importantly don’t forget technique and fly presentation. Plus, I can’t tell you how many times I have looked at a photo and tried to find an exact spot and once you get on the river, it looks nothing like you saw in the photo. Almost every photo you see is from the bank and most likely not in the exact place you hooked it. Most new fisherman to that piece of water will show up and try what you did without success and move on before it would even matter and those that don’t are most likely the type of person you would have just as much fun watching catch a fish than doing it yourself.

And really, so what if someone shows up because of a post. Most of them are not regulars on that piece of water and wouldn’t be around more than a day or two a season and that is only if what you showed them worked, which commonly does not.

I have always found that being on the move works best for me and on occasion I will work a spot for some time but will always have the next spot in the front of my mind. So, if I am on your favorite spot because I saw it on a photo or read it in a post, I won't be there for long. Unless, I am sleighing them! If that is the case, sorry brother, but today is my day and yours will come another time. At least on that spot.....lol

However, I have often caught some fish in a spot that I gave up to someone who was walking by with that aggravated look from not catching anything and instructed them on what I was doing until they caught something and left them to it after that.

These rivers are for everyone! If you have a special spot, get up early and get on it, hit it on weekdays or wait for it to free up. If fish are there and you know how to catch them, you will.

I have caught more fish just on the outskirts of lots of people than I can count and if you are looking for secret spots and solitude, the Yuba, American or any other valley river in California is not the place to find it. However, what you can do is fish the weekdays, improve your technique, try new area’s that people aren’t talking about. Either way, you will still be out on the water, which is what most of us are drawn too. That place where you can forget about everything else in your life just for a few hours of the day and enjoy the outdoors.

If you favorite spot is taken, practice casting until they move on! I know I can use that!

Okay, that was more like $10 dollars than 2 cents!!!


That was really well said. I couldn't agree more. There are plenty of spots on every river and there are good and bad fisherman as well. I have made it a habit to fish weekdays now. 95 percent of the crowds are gone and that secret spot ( whatever the hell that means) is available. Keep in mind people... Fish move and so must we.

Troutstalker55B
02-15-2015, 08:04 PM
Thanks for the text today Ben, and stoked you got some on the dry. It's hard being in LA while your out combing the banks as I wish I was fishing with you. Great post by the way. I'll be home soon enough - Let's fish soon buddy!

cyama
02-15-2015, 09:54 PM
There are so many spots for dry flies. Some of the Grass valley guys love the spot above the third riffle going upstream from the bridge they hang out just about all day long so don't expect to catch many fish there. Keep walking upstream and you may catch a giant... Others will park above sycamore and just hang out just above sycamore. That is a really good spot. If you go upriver from there the tailouts are really good. Another great spot is just below the big island. There is a deep channel on the far side and fish love to eat skwalas all the way down the channel. Keep walking downriver and you may catch some of the biggest trout on the Yuba… These are just areas that most people fish. There are no secrets...

itsbenlong
02-16-2015, 01:07 AM
Hey Jon, I greatly look forward to us finding some time to hang out on or off the water. On the water is always preferable though! :)

Good luck with your travels and lets get something on the calendar soon. Text me those dates you mentioned the other day.

Heading out in the morning for a few hours of fishing, probably all day if it is decent. I'll let you know how it went......

Rmacneil656
02-16-2015, 05:55 PM
Amen to that! I feel the same way. Agree with everything said! High five!

jbird
02-16-2015, 07:02 PM
As I see more and more people, both young and old, transfixed on their iphones, tablets and gaming, I think the coming generations are going to be too busy with technology to enjoy the outdoors. Theres a big beautiful world right in front of them and they dont even see it. More and more people reading these reports are dreamers and not doers. The true adventurers will soon be extinct. as will the stewards. When you see someone camped on your favorite spot, smile and rejoice theres still a few of us left in the world ;)

itsbenlong
02-16-2015, 08:47 PM
Isn't that the truth "jbird"! It is a real sad state of affairs when it comes to technology crazed folks!

SeanO
02-16-2015, 09:08 PM
+1

I agree with you. We need to keep people coming into the sport if we want have people to advocate for fish.

Not sure if you meant to leave the Android phones off of your list, but I think they are worse than the iphone folks! Just kidding!



As I see more and more people, both young and old, transfixed on their iphones, tablets and gaming, I think the coming generations are going to be too busy with technology to enjoy the outdoors. Theres a big beautiful world right in front of them and they dont even see it. More and more people reading these reports are dreamers and not doers. The true adventurers will soon be extinct. as will the stewards. When you see someone camped on your favorite spot, smile and rejoice theres still a few of us left in the world ;)

Bob Loblaw
02-17-2015, 11:55 AM
I fished the Lower Yuba yesterday with about 50 of my closest friends :-) Got on the water at 9am and by about 10am I was boxed into one run (where I was having decent success) so I didn't up sticks until about 12:30 and move on. During that time I had 3 fish in net all about 18 inches and was broken off as many times. The two guys opposite me didn't get a hit, the old guy below me was camping in the bushes and he hadn't had a fish in 2 days, but said a guy fishing the run the day before had 15 in the net, and the guy fishing the flat water above me had 6 in just 2 hours.

Bottom line is, most people know what fishy water looks like. There are no secret spots on the Yuba (or any other big rivers for that matter) there are people who know how to fish certain waters and certain conditions and people who do not. And there are people like me who get lucky occasionally.

mattv-mcfly
02-18-2015, 12:32 AM
I love taking photos of my fish and a lot of those photos probably get circulated on the internet. Any one can fish the spot you caught a fish at but not everyone can catch a fish especially on the Yuba.
You really have to know that river to get the idea of what is going on and how to fish it. Believe me this is only my third year fly fishing and I'm only 23. I have worked that river with blood, sweat, and tears and its paid off. A photo of me with a Yuba fish is by no means saying that if you cast here you will catch a fish. The next time I'm there its always a totally different story.

NVTrout
02-19-2015, 08:07 AM
I sort of look at this way. I go to places that I'm not going to give blow-by-blow reports over the interwebs. These are the "special" places. Sensitive fisheries, places you've worked hard to find over the years, etc.......The Sierra has plenty of places like this.

Then theres the Truckee's, Yuba's, and Pyramid's of the world.........Everyone knows about em. Like some of you said already, you can give blow-by-blows, but it doesn't matter too much. These places are tough to fish and will weed out the casual fisherman.