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RichCarm
12-15-2012, 12:58 PM
Hand Made Fort Shockly fly tying box excellent condition, one scratch. Tools and materials not included. ONLY LOCAL ONLY CASH
$225.00
richardgerdes@mac.com597259735974

Kneedeep
12-16-2012, 06:54 AM
Darn.....I live in Redlands and I'd take. Darn, darn darn!

Rockman
12-16-2012, 10:39 AM
Nice box, how much is that same box new? A bit more then I can afford at this moment. Would you condider any partial trade.
Thanks
Rockman

RichCarm
12-16-2012, 07:16 PM
Nice box, how much is that same box new? A bit more then I can afford at this moment. Would you condider any partial trade.
Thanks
Rockman

I bought years ago at a sportsman show down in bay area. If recall it was well over $300. As for how much it would cost now I could not find out. Fort Shockly still had a website the last time I looked. However no prices and after several attempts no replays to there contact e-mail. I really hate to let it go.

JasonB
12-17-2012, 01:18 PM
looks like that box costs over $600 nowadays http://www.thetroutfitter.com/catalog/flytying/workstation1.html Easy to see why, as it's a really sweet looking box. Well thought out, and nice looking craftmanship... wish I had the cash.
JB

Harry H. Shuler Jr.
12-17-2012, 11:59 PM
I sent you an email. I may be in Roseville on Wednesday. As long as the scratch is not too deep or long I will offer $200 cash.

RichCarm
12-18-2012, 10:30 AM
I sent you an email. I may be in Roseville on Wednesday. As long as the scratch is not too deep or long I will offer $200 cash.

I have an offer for the $225.But I will have to ship it for him. Don't take this wrong but I price things for what I think their worth, not a starting place for Haggling. You are welcome to look at it but the price remains the same. Take a look at the website below if you would like some comparison

http://www.thetroutfitter.com/catalog/flytying/workstation1.html
Thanks Richard

Harry H. Shuler Jr.
12-19-2012, 01:45 AM
This email was sent to me by Richard Gerdes in response to my offer that was also posted here on this thread:

I took the picture at an angle that looks the worest. most of the time its harder to see it. I would be willing to sell it to you for the $200.
Richard Gerdes
richardgerdes@mac.com








On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Harry H. Shuler Jr. wrote:

I live in Lodi, CA

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Harry H. Shuler Jr." <hshuler@aol.com>
Date: December 17, 2012, 10:33:29 PM PST
To: "" <richardgerdes@mac.com>
Subject: Fly tying box

How bad is the scratch? If it is not to long or deep I will offer you $200 cash.

Regards,
Harry

Sent from my iPhone

He sent me a photograph of the scratch early this morning. It was on the top of the box near the front edge and extended nearly the entire width. He said it looked far worse is the photo then in person. I told him that I wanted to see it in person and if what he claimed were true, I would still give him the $200 as agreed. He posted that I could see for myself and I offered to drive up to Carmichel tomorrow. He posted on this thread that he received a full price offer but had to ship it to the buyer, which given the size and wait of the box would net him less that what he agreed to accept from me. The original post said local sale cash only. I have all email correspondence and will forward to anyone member of this forum who asks. He is clearly not a man of his word! This was very a bery disappointing experience.

JasonB
12-19-2012, 09:03 AM
Seems like a lot of fuss here over a scratch on a used box (and a $25 price haggle)??? I think I'd be a bit hesitant to part with such a sweet tying box if it were mine. Lets not start trashing people and their word here until there's been some real reasons for doing so. You could always buy a new one with no scratch of course...
JB

yellowlab
12-19-2012, 04:29 PM
I'll pay the asking price + offer $25 to ship it to me.

RichCarm
12-19-2012, 04:39 PM
Sorry i sold It

RichCarm
12-19-2012, 04:40 PM
Sold it. already picked up happy customer

Harry H. Shuler Jr.
12-19-2012, 11:15 PM
Hesitant on parting with the box or not, he agreed to sell it to me for $200.00 - and if what he claimed were true: that the photo he sent me made the scratch look much worse than in person, I told him I would still pay him the $200 as agreed. I did not twist his arm! And getting a full price offer after he agreed to sell it to me and still having to ship it to the second buyer, which would reduce his net, who is the one being cheap! He agreed to let me look at in person and I tried to arrange a meet the next day. In any event, I am confident that you will not ask that I forward you our email correspondence. The fact is: he did not honor our agreement. Why don't you make a comment why he would quibble over less than $25.00. The gas to drive to meet him and back would cost me that and he could have simply said that he would only accept $225 regardless of the scratch. I will try and post the photo, though I don't think it would make a difference to you. Anyone wonder why he did not post a photo of the scratch in the first place. But the long and short of it is: he agreed to $200, and if he was being honest about the scratch, I assured him that I would pay him the ageed upon price. And I did not try a haggle; I simply made him an offer and he accepted. He has listed a wood pram on this site for $2,500 and over time dropped it to $1,000. He also recently listed a Dyna-King vise on this site for $345 in one place and $300 in another. I am a man of integrity and my word is my bond. I must suspect why you would defend him without all the facts... correspondence that I have offered to any member of this site. I am not trashing the man - simply stating the facts. He did not honor our agreement. This was not a verbal contract (he said; she said) it was actually documented in writing. I am contemplating spending far more than the cost of this box to teach him a lesson. Your response is only solidifying my resolve. Do a bit of contemplation and homework before you take sides or at a minimum excercise some caution before you lend your support to the seller.

jbird
12-20-2012, 04:30 AM
I am a man of integrity I am not trashing the man .

Seriously?? Get over yourself. this is between you and him. He has the right to sell his stuff to whomever he wants. He didnt take your money and run. He didnt screw you in any way. He simply didnt sell you his box. Sounds like he found satisfied buyer to me.

Rich Morrison
12-20-2012, 06:56 AM
Mods can we take this silliness down please?
Rich

Kneedeep
12-20-2012, 07:00 AM
In actuality, its you that don't have ALL the facts.

First, I don't think you could be faulted for offering the seller less than asked and you are certainly welcome to express your sentiments here, or anywhere else..

You were NOT the first offer, I was. I am the one that he agreed to ship the box to.
I was paying the FULL $225, +all his shipping/handling costs, +insurance for the full value, and the PayPal transaction expenses, ergo, he was not losing anything in the transaction as you automatically assumed.
When asked, he was kind enough to send me a couple of good pics of the scratch and it was a nasty one (IMHO) that ran most of the length of the top. Although white could be seen through the green surface material (formica), I told him I could "live with that".

Now, whether this has any bearing on the seller's descision to sell it you you or me, I can't confirm, but after seeing your post yesterday, I promptly emailed the seller and told him I was OK with him selling to you for what, in my thinking, were obvious reasons. It was his choice to make despite the fact I thought it was a "done deal".
You got the box.........be happy!
Let the rest of it go.
:)

jersey
12-21-2012, 01:02 AM
of what not to do...it's truly offensive to read.

I second Mr. Morrison, please remove this post.