North Umpqua only fly area question

[veodobles]

Hi,

Does anyone know whether skagit/scandi heads + sinking tips or full sinking lines are allowed on the "only fly area" of the North Umpqua in Oregon? Regulations indicate that metal core lines are not allowed, nor any kind of weight added to the line or the fly from July1-Sept30.

Thanks,

[shawn kempkes]

basically what all that means is no stinking bobicators alllowed. LOL No weight on you fly.
Sink tips and skagits are OK. You just cant use lead core lines or tips.

Skating dry flies in the morning and evening and big green butt skunks or purple perils or other classics on a sinktip in the middle of the day is the ticket up there.

[veodobles]

Rio T-8, Rio T-11, Rio T-14, and Rio T-17 sinking tips all have a Tungsten core, what kind of sinking tips and/or lines dont have metal cores?
Thanks,

[shawn kempkes]

Rio T-8, Rio T-11, Rio T-14, and Rio T-17 sinking tips all have a Tungsten core, what kind of sinking tips and/or lines dont have metal cores?
Thanks,

The t 8,11,14 tips are ok. The actual core on them is monofilament. Then they are coated with a tungsten impregnated pvc coating.
lead core is a lead line that is coated with vinyl.

[aaron]

A floater long leader and traditional swung subsurface bug will hook plenty of fish mid day too. Its a special place, enjoy.

[joshfish]

spent two days on the umpqua a couple years ago. only had a floating line. fished two days for one grab on a green butt skunk. thats one grab i will never forget. i would fish in the morning. go back to camp to get lunch. swing a black crystal bugger through the riffle right by camp for a bunch of trout and then fish for steelhead again in the evening. very beautiful river.

[bubzilla]

basically what all that means is no stinking bobicators alllowed. LOL

That's exactly right! Originally the regulation change that was made in 1999 and took affect in 2000 also prohibited sinking lines of all kinds from July 1 to November 1 (I believe lead core has always been prohibited), but then finally after some wrangling the Oregon Game Commission settled on language that would, at least one would think, impact solely the "bobicator" fishermen who were clearly bringing the fishery to the verge of extinction. Of course, the regulations permit the use of an acutal bobber with spinning gear due to the fact that the section of river in question has not once been restricted to "fly angling only" but merely "fly only" in its history as the original restrictions, which were implemented in the 1950s, were expressly intended not to permit the fishery to devolve into a playground of elitist jerk-offs (is jerk off hyphenated when you use it as a noun?).