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aaron
08-09-2011, 06:48 PM
East or west? Will be in that neck of the woods on a climbing trip this weekend and hoping to fish an evening or 2. Any word on water, bugs, etc? Thanks all.

Jed Peters
08-10-2011, 07:56 PM
Aaron...im fishing Saturday up there...do you have access to a dirt bike or ATv?

aaron
08-10-2011, 08:08 PM
Not this trip unfortunately. Mainly up that way to climb, but taking a few novice friends out for an evening sesh or 2.

Jed Peters
08-10-2011, 08:17 PM
We will be riding in on an all day thing Saturday.

Take the newbs above the bridges for stockers....

aaron
08-10-2011, 08:19 PM
Nice, let me know how that goes. Was thinking just that in regards to the bridge.

Chris Evison
08-11-2011, 01:08 PM
EC is good. Stonefly nymphs, san juan worms, caddis patterns and streamer fishing. All work now. I fished it last saturday and did not notice any dry fly action. We started fishing around 7am and finished at 1pm. Only saw one other person on the water. Last saturday flows were 525cfs now down below 400cfs I believe. Flows perfect for wet wading.

We fished well below Hangman's and caught a lot of stockers from 10" to 18". High water has pushed the stockers well downstream. 18" stockers looked like Alpers trout, but who knows for sure. Out of 23 fish landed between 2 anglers only 5 were wild fish.

Did see stonefly husks on the rocks so a big dry might provide some action.

amoeba
08-12-2011, 06:50 PM
EC just dropped under 300. That's still about triple the median for this time of year. It's probably worth trying if you are in the area, but the conditions aren't gonna be great. Honest.

1-2 hookups would be an optimistic scenario. I would leave the junk (lead, nymphs, bobbers) at home, and toss grasshoppers, orange/yellow stims in #8-10, during the day, and #16 or smaller cahills in yellow or cream at dusk.

Tiger
08-12-2011, 08:37 PM
If the water is high why would you do that?

Chris Evison
08-13-2011, 08:48 AM
I totally disagree with Amoeba. Fishing is good on EC. I fished it at 525cfs and we did great. As flows drop the fishing generally improves. For us the nymphing was great. See my post above. The dry fly should be steadily improving with the flies that Amoeba mentioned.

If you only get 1 or 2 grabs in a day then hire a guide that knows the water and learn from the experience. I used to guide out of Tahoe Fly Fishing Outfitters in S. Lake Tahoe and primary water was the EC. They have good guides that know that river inside out.

It's great fishing at this time, although beware of the full moon this week;) PM me if you have further ?'s.

amoeba
08-13-2011, 11:03 AM
Forget the junk, don't make a special trip, but do fish it if you're in the area:

This is a pretty simple system.....pounded to smithereens on rumors like this, but can be good when the flows drop. You don't need to see fish rising to fish dries.

By "flows drop" I mean <150 or 100 cfs; not <300 or <525. That's truely borderline.

Anyone who believes that guides make a lick of difference, or might catch 23 fish in 4 morning hours on junk, can bring out there checkbooks and get fleeced by one, then howl at the moon which they can then blame. That pre-excuse/wink was pretty darn hilarious.


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Chris Evison
08-13-2011, 02:41 PM
Maybe amoeba needs a guide! Has he even fished it this year as I have with friends. Has he even seen the water. I am sorry you are not able to catch fish at these flows, all the better for those that can.

Jed Peters
08-14-2011, 07:01 AM
EC just dropped under 300. That's still about triple the median for this time of year. It's probably worth trying if you are in the area, but the conditions aren't gonna be great. Honest.

1-2 hookups would be an optimistic scenario. I would leave the junk (lead, nymphs, bobbers) at home, and toss grasshoppers, orange/yellow stims in #8-10, during the day, and #16 or smaller cahills in yellow or cream at dusk.

Dude, you must really suck at fishing, because my brother in law who slaps the water constantly, can barely fish, still can rape and pillage up there, all day long!

Tons of hook ups, big bomber stockers, and lots of them. dumb, recently planted fish, lowering water levels, moderate temps make for excellent fishing.

Any access point along 4 will produce. Literally.

cyama
08-14-2011, 05:51 PM
Fishing the East Carson is fun, but you should put an asterisk on your catches.... As mentioned above many of the big fish are planters.... Even well below the bridge down to the guide wire...:D The fish will float down from Pleasant Valley and in recent years from the plants by Alpine County.