PDA

View Full Version : DAVIS Lake 7/1-7-3



1flyfisher
07-03-2010, 09:30 PM
The GOOD the BAD and the UGLY.
I fished 3 days. 8am till 5pm or so. I quit today the 3rd at 2 as it was brutal.

The GOOD. The lake has filled up nicely. Water is high and clear for the most part. The weeds haven't even come close to breaking through the surface yet. Not even close. It has been cool and windy at the lake. I almost had to put on a jacket every afternoon when the wind comes up. If the lake isn't drained too much and we get some warm temps the weed beds will fill in fast. The water is perfect temps right now for fish to be working the shorelines and feeding. The lake looks good and is setting up nicely for next year.

The BAD. With the high water and cold spring and summer temps once again the bugs are 2 months behind easily. What should now be the end of the damsel hatch is just the beginning and it will be a poor hatch that ends in the next week or two. Damsels just won't hatch much more this late in the year en masse as they do in june. There will be bugs hatching but overall this is a sub par damsel hatch. Hopefully we get some warm temps and windless days to get more bugs to hatch. They are migrating and have a long way to go to get to shore. There are no caddis coming off as you would normally see every morning with fish sporadically rising 8 am to 9-10 am prior to the damsel hatch. There are some small midges but not many and none of the large midges. I did not see one blood midge in three days around cow/fugawee.
THE FISH. More BAD. There are not many fish around at all. I got into some fish on THU but most were the dink sardine sized 14" trout. I got a few that were around 16" and they were covered with parasites. FRI I was against the bank and saw 2 fish working the shoreline. Just 2 fish. No POds of 3-4-6+ as is normal with multiple pods. I had a fish swirl a few times and made a cast and watched the fish swim over to my bug in 2 feet of water and I was hooked up. Sweet,,, as good as it gets. This was 2 pm for my first fish. He grabbed my bug and it was sweet watching a fish charge my bug in a few feet of water. It turned out to be a nice 19" parasite covered fish but strong and it swam off strong. At 2:30 another fish worked in front of me off the bank and I hooked up again on a damsel nymph casting to the swirl with another nice fish a bit bigger 20" or so. It appeared to be another hold over fish working the shoreline but it was scarred up with sores and parasites.
Sat am I had my best fish of the year a fish that ran and ran in the skinny water and I thought would get into my backing at 10am. I had 4X so I put the pressure on. Nice run and a decent 19" fish. I saw one fish working ONLY ONE and I tried and tried but couldn't get a hook up. He would just come up for one rise every 15 minutes at best and I just had to sit and wait. There were bugs crawling up on my kayak. Just 3-4 but there were bugs. JUST NOT MANY FISH! I don't know where they are. I question the fish population in the lake. There just weren't ANY fish working what was good water and callibaetis and scattered swimmer damsels. Perfect conditions but no fish.

THE UGLY. Well lack of fish is the problem. There was a trickle of damsels just the right amount for an early MAY scenario but now it is July 1st. Perfect amount to get fish interested and them being aggressively grabbing bugs. Problem is there just isn't many fish around. Fish should be popping up all through the coves from cow to fugawee but they aren't. CADFG needs to put some decent fish in this lake for the fall and future. The fish are few and far between and what is in this so called TROPHY TROUT lake is 14" and parasite and sore covered. Time for a new plant of decent quality eagle lake trout and some fish that can take this lake back to its quality fishery. Right now there is just 14" parasite covered hatchery schwag with an occasional decent fish. Plant it with some HEALTHY fish and lets gets this fishery back to its former glory and where it could be. The WATER is perfect for a jump start and it just needs a healthy dose of good quality fish.

MORE UGLY To the individual (you know who you are, I know who YOU are, I'll leave it at that) in the boat who passed me while I was on the point and south side of fugawee first point. PLEASE do not ever come blasting past me 100 feet from shore full throttle screaming around the point charging into the back cove of fugawee. Your wake blasted waves all over the point while I was stalking a fish (one of the few) and put down that one fish and tossed me around. Many folks like to work the shoreline either walking/wading and screaming past the shoreline 100 feet blasting into the back coves is a really shit way to run your boat. You are responsible for your WAKE if you didn't know it. That is the LAW. Read some boating regulations besides it being simply poor boating and fishing etiquette. IF Your WAKE capsizes another boater you are responsible. Next time I will file a complaint. End of story.

michaeln
07-04-2010, 04:36 AM
Thanks for the detailed and depressing report. :(

Lance Gray
07-04-2010, 06:39 AM
Thanks for the update.

Lance Gray
http://www.lancegrayandcompany.com

jayclarkflyfishing
07-04-2010, 06:52 AM
"THE UGLY. Well lack of fish is the problem. There was a trickle of damsels just the right amount for an early MAY scenario but now it is July 1st. Perfect amount to get fish interested and them being aggressively grabbing bugs. Problem is there just isn't many fish around. Fish should be popping up all through the coves from cow to fugawee but they aren't. CADFG needs to put some decent fish in this lake for the fall and future. The fish are few and far between and what is in this so called TROPHY TROUT lake is 14" and parasite and sore covered. Time for a new plant of decent quality eagle lake trout and some fish that can take this lake back to its quality fishery."


While this season has been challenging,I don't agree with this statement at all.I've been finding plenty of fish lately,just not in the the places one would normally hope to find them.I have given up on fishing damsels because the hatch has been spotty and the fish are few and far between.With that said we have been crushing them fishing midges in 10-11' of water.

There are lots of fish in the lake.I have been marking huge schools from 2-12' down in 18' of water out in front of Jenkins.I agree that the cookie cutters covered in copepods are getting old but it is what it is.I think a major problem that occured over the winter was the limits of 18-20"+ fish that were taken under the ice.A ton of fish were killed in this fashion.

Anyways ,I am sorry the lake isn't living up to your expectations.Maybe the fall will be better for you.

Jay

1flyfisher
07-04-2010, 10:35 AM
How big are the fish you are getting?





While this season has been challenging,I don't agree with this statement at all.I've been finding plenty of fish lately,just not in the the places one would normally hope to find them.I have given up on fishing damsels because the hatch has been spotty and the fish are few and far between.With that said we have been crushing them fishing midges in 10-11' of water.


Jay

1flyfisher
07-04-2010, 10:38 AM
Keep the Faith.
It will improve. The bugs will come off.
There are damsels in there and I am seeing them begin to hatch. I had some climbing up my boat.
If there are good fish in there they will show up sooner or later.
I got a few nicer ones this last trip.
Not many but there are some nice ones here and there.
You just have to work hard for them.
But stalking them in the skinny water is fun.




Thanks for the detailed and depressing report. :(

michaeln
07-04-2010, 11:48 AM
Thanks, but I'm not seeing anything that makes me want to return to Lake Davis right now. Perhaps in the fall.

1flyfisher
07-04-2010, 12:12 PM
If things improve I will let you know. You aren't missing any fishing but it was sure nice out on a lake. I think I will try again in a few days. I will wait for things to warm up a bit. It has been very cool. Normally I am sweating bullets out there and having to pour water on my head. Every day it got windy and cool in the afternoon and I put on my jacket.



Thanks, but I'm not seeing anything that makes me want to return to Lake Davis right now. Perhaps in the fall.

1flyfisher
07-04-2010, 12:27 PM
Oh yeah. My friend jim moloney saw some small fishes. Very small tiny fish that have spawned. I didn't see them the other day when he spotted them but I saw them in the warm water of the willows yesterday. He couln't identify them. And I couldn't either. I never got a good enough look. They aren't cat fish that is for sure. So either they are tiny 1-3" rainbows or some lahontan redisde perhaps. I forgot what was up the creeks. I don't think they were sunfish but hey may have been. They are in the willows.

I saw quite a few catfish slowly cruising the shoreline waiting to get eaqten. One was looking dead on it's side and I got him to the surface. He looked like shit. His shin was all mottled with something that looked like ick. Whitish skin. He was alive and swam off. Another one went right under my boat in 2 feet of water. I couldn't grab him though. He looked to have the same ugly skin. I have seen tons of catfish over the years and most of them always seem to look like crap.

michaeln
07-04-2010, 01:47 PM
Man, you're sure making me hongree for some Lake Davis fish! :puke:

SHigSpeed
07-04-2010, 04:29 PM
Where did these catfish come from? Did DFG do an official catfish plant after the poisoning? Or is this another back-woods redneck guerrilla planting?

_SHig

1flyfisher
07-04-2010, 05:14 PM
The catfish have been in the lake for quite a while. There have been all sorts of fish planted in Davis legally and illegally over the years. Coho's, Kings, Bass, Sunfish you name it. CADFG at one point wanted to turn Davis into a warm water fishery. Prior to the last rotenone treatment there were massive schools of catfish. The Pike killed the trout and the catfish flourished. The last summer prior to treatment I saw massive schools of catfish in 4-6 feet of water. They covered the points and I would paddle over hundreds of catfish that would scatter. CADFG expected the catfish would survive the rotenone treatment. They did. So did other species of fish.


Where did these catfish come from? Did DFG do an official catfish plant after the poisoning? Or is this another back-woods redneck guerrilla planting?

_SHig

Jay
07-04-2010, 05:36 PM
What other species survived?

1flyfisher
07-04-2010, 05:36 PM
A few of my friends have fished off of jenkins recently and they have gotten into the sardines 12-14" trout. That is pretty bad for Davis lake. IF the bigger hold over fish have survived I would like to see them come into the shorline as they normally do every year busting the banks with pods of quality fish working. I haven't seen that. So for me that isn't very good davis lake fishing. I hope the nice trout that we normally see start to show up. Last time they nuked the lake we had tons of great fish and fishing 3 years after treatment. I figure 3 years after the cleaning we should have some real nice trout in davis. Maybe it is the weather and the fall will kick out some nice healthy FAT DAVIS lake fish.
I haven't given up yet.




"THE UGLY. Well lack of fish is the problem. There was a trickle of damsels just the right amount for an early MAY scenario but now it is July 1st. Perfect amount to get fish interested and them being aggressively grabbing bugs. Problem is there just isn't many fish around. Fish should be popping up all through the coves from cow to fugawee but they aren't. CADFG needs to put some decent fish in this lake for the fall and future. The fish are few and far between and what is in this so called TROPHY TROUT lake is 14" and parasite and sore covered. Time for a new plant of decent quality eagle lake trout and some fish that can take this lake back to its quality fishery."


While this season has been challenging,I don't agree with this statement at all.I've been finding plenty of fish lately,just not in the the places one would normally hope to find them.I have given up on fishing damsels because the hatch has been spotty and the fish are few and far between.With that said we have been crushing them fishing midges in 10-11' of water.

There are lots of fish in the lake.I have been marking huge schools from 2-12' down in 18' of water out in front of Jenkins.I agree that the cookie cutters covered in copepods are getting old but it is what it is.I think a major problem that occured over the winter was the limits of 18-20"+ fish that were taken under the ice.A ton of fish were killed in this fashion.

Anyways ,I am sorry the lake isn't living up to your expectations.Maybe the fall will be better for you.

Jay

1flyfisher
07-04-2010, 05:41 PM
The catfish survived. They expected them to survive. I believe they expected the sunnies to also survive and What else survived has yet to be seen.


What other species survived?

jayclarkflyfishing
07-04-2010, 07:32 PM
http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt96/littletruckee/100_0927.jpg

This is the best fish in my boat this year.23" 4lber taken on a midge.Most fish have been cookie cutters though with a 17-19" fish every once in a while.

As far as the catfish go,they have have been in the lake since I was a kid.The minnows being seen may be red ear sunfish.Catfish,sunfish,and possibly large mouth bass have survived treatment.I am not sure if there are lahontan redsides or not.Must do further research.

Jay

1flyfisher
07-04-2010, 07:56 PM
That's a nice fish. Too bad there aren't more of them around cruising the shoreline and working or rising anywhere like would normally be the case this time of year. Maybe they will show up this week as things begin to warm up.
On a regular year we would be banging fish on damsels in that size left and right.
Now we have 12-14 parasite covered sardines.

1flyfisher
07-05-2010, 09:48 AM
I'm going to head back out later this week.
I'm not ready to throw in the towel.
Plus it is just nice to be out there.
Afternoons were beautiful lately.

High water years and conditions like this I have found motor boat caddis coming off in july once the weed beds grow in and channel up. I saw one bug the other day. Maybe I'll get lucky again.