How's Silver Fork?

[kyburz]

Heading up to the Silver Fork this Tues. I figure it will be running high, but hope it's kinda fishable. Anybody know?

[chemdoc]

I just got back from a few days on the Silver Fork, not fishing but vacationing with the family. The river is running high and cold for this time of year. You might try nymphing but I only like to fish dries there and will probably wait until July to try again. Good luck.

[Jaybinder]

So how was it?

[SHigSpeed]

So how was it?

...not fishing but vacationing with the family.

...The river is running high and cold for this time of year.

...You might try nymphing but I only like to fish dries there and will probably wait until July to try again.

...Good luck.

;)

_SHig

[kyburz]

Went up to China Flat Cmpgrnd this past Tues. While camping there, I checked out local streams and here's what I got.......
Silver Fork: Running high like it's still May but we're towards the end of June. Caught some small natives on a hare's ear in the canyon downstream from the cmpgrnd. Not a lot of action but fun considering the condition of the stream.

Strawberry Creek: Completely blown out! Stay out of the water if you want to stay alive. I'm thinking it will take about another 3 to 4 weeks to come into shape.

Alder Creek: Great! My answer to a quick fishing trip. Yeah, they're all small natives, but there's alot of them. Dries or nymphs in the pools as you hike up the streamside trail. I there is a pool fish the head and tailout. Brisk but good swimming too.:fish:

:fish:

[Jay]

There arent any native trout in the Silver Fork. Wild yes, native no.

[Ed Wahl]

You may want to back off that one Jay. If Steelhead could find their way into Desolation I'm pretty sure they could make it to the Silver Fork to spawn.
That being said, you may be right in that they've been stocking for many,many years and the native strain may have been totally corrupted by the imports.

Native fishes being the fish present before our involvement, the ones that have been there for eons and have evolved there. Steelhead.

Wild fished being any species that were successfully spawned in the watershed. Planted 'bows, browns, and brookies.

Just so we're all on the same page.

Ed

[Jay]

Yeah Ed, you are right. I didnt consider the old isolated Steelhead. I do agree though, that their strain has undoubtedly been corrupted beyond recognition by the planters.

I just see people interchanging the native/wild monikers, and to me, the diffference is worth noting. I just read something on Ken's Sporting Goods calling the brookies in the Virginias natives. Made me laugh.

BTW, the bargain rod showed up, hitting one of my ponds tomorrow. I'll let you know what it is like.

[kyburz]

Hey Jay,
Do you need any more hairs to split? Sorry about my alleged misuse of the word, "native". I didn't mean to get anyone stirred up. I was simply stating for all to see some information about fishing in that area that I experienced on a recent trip. I'll try to edit myself in the future, but there's only so much that I can give a hoot.

[Jay]

Hey Jay,
Do you need any more hairs to split?

Yes.

I wasnt trying to make a big deal of it, but you are right. There is next to no difference between fish whose ancestors spent 100,000 years in that watershed and fish whose mother was dumped out the back of a planter truck.

My bad.

[fj40]

Thank you for the report Kyburz!

[Hairstacker]

Yes.

I wasnt trying to make a big deal of it, but you are right. There is next to no difference between fish whose ancestors spent 100,000 years in that watershed and fish whose mother was dumped out the back of a planter truck.

My bad.

Well . . . when you put it that way . . . . :lol:

Kyburz, your point is well taken. In any event, thank you for sharing your recent experience, it's very helpful.

[Ed Wahl]

Whoa, calm down a tad there Kyburz. Jay's was more of a general rant, not directed at you personally. The terms 'native' and 'wild' do get thrown around quite loosely by a lot of people and it gets hard to take sometimes.
I've heard the term 'native' given to some brook trout fisheries here.:roll:

I have a peeve about the term 'German Brown', but now I'm just sounding like the word police.

Post away Kyburz, (real name?) we do appreciate it. Some pics wouldn't be a bad thing.

Love them small creeks.

Ed

[Black Cloud]

All this talk about native vs wild is getting peoples waders all bunched up in a wedgie. On another board they're talking about about things that are really important , like what is your best recipe for Carp?

[kyburz]

No worries. I hadn't had my coffee yet when I read your reply

[Frank Alessio]

If it was not for the Planter Truck there would not be an Upper Sacramento Trout fishery.. I like the story about the fish that were used came from feeder creeks.. If they did all the Trout would never reach over six or seven inches.. But what do I know I only had a minor in Biology.... Let the games Begin........ Frank B. Alessio