Klamth Glenn blakes riffle

[norcal tom]

Is there any decent bank access down that way or would i be better off taking Grayback to Happy camp and fish down to Orleans thanks .

[Jasonh]

Still a little early for the Happy Camp and Orleans area. I would fish Blakes or drive up and fish around Johnson's Bar and Weithipec. Good luck.

[Bruce Slightom]

Blakes has good access. You will not be alone. If you have some way to get across the river to the south side you will have it to your self except in the mornings. Down river where the "Riffles" boat ramp was is a nice run that has been dubbed the Slab Hole. The tail out always has people fishing it but if you can cast without making a back cast you can fish the tree line and have most of it to yourself.

These are the only two areas that are accessible by car at the Glenn.

If this does not work I would go to the Orleans area.

[norcal tom]

Thanks guys !! I will post a report in a day are so

[Darrin.Deel]

we skated flies at witchipec for 3 hours on sunday with no success. dosen't mean you won't have any. good luck. about a half dozen fisherman right below the bridge (riffle id?). the only fish caught was by a dude with a spinner and the indians with their gillnets and jetboats.

[big bug]

Wrong site for any of this.

[Dustin Revel]

and slaughter some wild steelhead? no thanks!

[Darrin.Deel]

http://www.yurokfishingguides.com/photo-gallery/images/Img_1408.jpg

not okay in any situation. don't get me started

[Dustin Revel]

thanks darrin i didn't have time...

[speyfool]

how sad... :(

[big bug]

I am deleting my post. I hope all the other negatives are deleted as well.

[Dustin Revel]

I can't believe you had to take a photo from a site to expose another guide. Well here it is. Here is a photo of a fish from Durrin's site. This fish is dying in the grass.:crybaby: If you can't catch fish on the Klamath, why do you have to be such a jerk! I guess there is a reason you are only charging half price for your guide trips. Stick to the Lower Sac where the fishing is usually easy.

i'm not putting down a guide he I am puting down some guy slaughtering steelhead... who is apparently a guide... and i guess the picture you posted is comparable????
my point is i would never willingly give anyone money if i saw them raping our resources like that...

[WinterrunRon]

Gentlemen? May I suggest you clean up your posts or leave... you're benefiting no one. This is a fly fishing site, not a high school ball field. Sling the mud elsewhere. Dustin, your point was made with class... until the last five words.

[Darrin.Deel]

I, Durrin, am 100% guilty of taking a picture of that poor feather river steelhead on the wet grass. I did not stick a stick through the fishes gills and throw it on the BBQ. I did not stick multiple fish on the grass. My fish get revived then swim away.



Sustanence? Seriously?

[aaron]

Am I the only one thinking those fish came from the nets? I doubt a guide would post a picture of a bunch of fish they poached. It sucks to see dead wild fish but this immature hoopla is overblown.

[Jgoding]

I don't see anything wrong with the pictures posted. I assumed those were netted fish as well. The points are moot if people actually gave a rats arse about truly conserving a species....

[Dustin Revel]

sorry...
btw the caption of that picture was: "pole caught klammath river steelhead"

[Dustin Revel]

The points are moot if people actually gave a rats arse about truly conserving a species....

what do you mean? i don't follow

[WinterrunRon]

Much better fellas ;).

A couple of thoughts...

Could those fish be hatchery? My experience is when I see more than one steelhead caught durning a single outing and they are all about the same size... hatchery most likely. If they are, perfectly legal to fish for them and keep (1 or 2, I believe, depending on the river). So if there were five-nine guys fishing with a license, it's their right. If they're wild, and not from nine guys fishing the Smith River, what better evidence to bring to the attention of a game warden! If they were legal to take, :thumbsup:, if they were not :thumbsdown:.

I don't like looking at pictures the dead fish, but then I don't like looking at pictures of dead elk, deer, ducks, bear, pigs, etc. Oh, I like eating them okay, even though I don't hunt anymore, I just wouldn't take a picture of what I just killed and display it with any sense of pride. But that's me. I don't object to others that do (if they're not poatching!).

Every year, this is the most passionate forum by far, and the discussions are usually great, often times, heated. But if you leave the name-calling, bashing, (personal attacks of any kind really) and school-yard language out of your post, almost all are met with positive reactions/replies that lead to a healthy, productive exchange of ideas and information. And more folks are likely to join in if they don't feel they'll be crucified for voicing their opinion. And that's always a good thing.

Time to go make your own fishing report is just around the corner! :grin:

[Dustin Revel]

at least 6 adipose fins from the klammath... make whatever you want of it but i have a pretty good idea whats going on.

[shawn kempkes]

at least 6 adipose fins from the klammath... make whatever you want of it but i have a pretty good idea whats going on.


YOU ARE KILLING WILD STEELHEAD WHEN YOU RELEASE THEM.

Don't think for a second that these fish you CNR in 70 degree water just swim away and everthing is fine and dandy. They sulk on the bottom for a while and some of them die. So Step off your soap box.

It Is a refreshing sight for me to see an Native american that isn't sitting around and getting whisky drunk and smoking some pinners and then netting fish and leaving them there to rot for days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22iBK4osDr0

[speyfool]

YOU ARE KILLING WILD STEELHEAD WHEN YOU RELEASE THEM.

Don't think for a second that these fish you CNR in 70 degree water just swim away and everthing is fine and dandy. They sulk on the bottom for a while and some of them die. So Step off your soap box.

I'm not trying to raise the level of intensity in here. But, I hope you aren't advocating killing wild steelhead just because they might die when someone releases them. Even if some of them don't make it after trying to revive them. That seems better than 100% death rate. (Personally, I avoid fishing in water of that temp and hope that others do too.)

I haven't been a part of this forum for all that long. I'm not aware of any previous year arguments. Honestly, I find this interesting to see how varied peoples opinions are. Sad too. But interesting none the less.

[big bug]

Maybe some of you should read this article that was in the Chronicle. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/13/CMD4V8F7E.DTL. The Native Americans on the Klamath are allowed to keep all anadromous fish in the system, see Yurok/Hoopa Settlement Act of 1988.

As a fly fisherman I don't like to see a dead wild steelie, but the Native Americans are allowed to take the native fish. The salmon and steelhead are used for sustenence and ceremonial purposes.

The Yurok respect the river, as it is their livelihood. They have been working on sediment issues on the river. They are also involved with making sure sustainable logging is performed. They are also involved in trying to remove the dams.

Peace out

[Darian]

First, be careful about facts alleged in newspapers. According to the original "....Boldt decision....", Native Americans are allowed to take anadromous fish up to 50% of the estimated return in any given year. No distinction was made between native and hatchery raised fish. Once that threshold is reached, net fishing must stop. Altho that decision was arrived at many years ago, I'm unaware of any revision to it. Having said that, if anyone has new info about the decision, I'd like to read it.

[Darrin.Deel]

Maybe some of you should read this article that was in the Chronicle. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/13/CMD4V8F7E.DTL. The Native Americans on the Klamath are allowed to keep all anadromous fish in the system, see Yurok/Hoopa Settlement Act of 1988.

As a fly fisherman I don't like to see a dead wild steelie, but the Native Americans are allowed to take the native fish. The salmon and steelhead are used for sustenence and ceremonial purposes.

The Yurok respect the river, as it is their livelihood. They have been working on sediment issues on the river. They are also involved with making sure sustainable logging is performed. They are also involved in trying to remove the dams.

Peace out

Just a rant...

I am sorry, but sustenance? seriously? A few weeks ago I was at withipec swinging the skunk, and I took a walk down to the mouth of the Trinity. There was about a 15' opening where fish could swim through without being caught in a net right below the mouth. What bothers me is that you talk about sustenance and cerimonial purposes when they are using gillnets and Jet Sleds. I don't think the tribe members woudn't be sustainable if they didn't gillnet salmon.

But what do i know....

[wjorg]

White folk blew the whole show for anadramous fish, for the most part.

Native Americans contest that plastic gill nets and jet boats help them make up for that. Considering the hours put into weaving grass or reed nets, and the inability to reset nets multiple times per hour or day with row boats, they wouldn't get a damn thing.

The new method of plastic gill nets and jet sleds is creates an unsustainable harvest of the fishery.

I have feelings for both sides on that issue.

[shawn kempkes]

I'm not trying to raise the level of intensity in here. But, I hope you aren't advocating killing wild steelhead just because they might die when someone releases them. Even if some of them don't make it after trying to revive them. That seems better than 100% death rate. (Personally, I avoid fishing in water of that temp and hope that others do too.)

I haven't been a part of this forum for all that long. I'm not aware of any previous year arguments. Honestly, I find this interesting to see how varied peoples opinions are. Sad too. But interesting none the less.

Nope not trying to advocate killing wild steelhead. But I think it people need to realize they are having an impact on wild fish when they release them.

[Darian]

I have the same feeling for both sides of the issue as Walter does. However, the method used (nets, boats, dugouts, gigs or whatever) to catch fish for ceremonial purposes doesn't concern me a lot. It's not a lot different than saying a christian can't use modern techniques to fish. :confused:

The rub comes in when subsistence fishing (personal/tribal use) means that naturally spawned Salmon/Steelhead are found being sold to markets/restaurants in Eureka or elsewhere by tribal members. And what's the responsibility of the buyers in these transactions :?: :?: Of course, not all Native Americans are involved in this activity anymore than any other group. 8-)

Along the line of thought that others screwed it up, is that illegally caught anadromous/saltwater species (Dorado or Striped Bass) are being sold in markets/restaurants down here :?: :?: So, I guess we don't have room to avoid criticism for our own activities.... :| :| (hmmmm, after re-reading this it kinda sounds weird....)