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Bill Kiene semi-retired
11-08-2008, 07:57 AM
This is still the most popular tippet material for traditional Steelheading on the west coast of the USA. We have used it for the past 30 years or more.

Most use 6# test for the lightest for swing smaller flies (#6-12) on smaller rods (#5-7 line) for smaller Steelhead (under 5 pounds?).

When that is too light many go to 8# test.

On a larger rod (#7-8 line) with larger flies (#2-6) for larger Steelhead (over 5#) 8# test maxima is the norm for swinging flies.

As you head up north for larger Steelhead in Oregon, Washington and British Columbia some go to 10-12-15# test for the really big fish with big rods and big flies.

There are many variables as how large of tippet you use for Steelhead with visibility being a big one.

Sun light and water clarity are things that dictate what size tippet and what size fly we use for Steelhead.

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For modern tippet material that comes in the 'X' measurements for diameter I would use 3x for smaller fish with smaller flies and smaller rods like Halfpounders here on the Lower American River.

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Al Perryman said he recommends using 2x for landing any larger hot Steelhead because most of them can break 3x.

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Veteran Lower Klamath River jet boat guide Mike Krysinski use to use 2x as his smallest tippet for clients some years ago with a 6 weight rod with a floating line. Lately he has moved to 1x tippet because the fish have been running bigger.

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Once on the Lower Feather River Mike Mercer told me that the difference between 2x and 3x was huge for landing Steelhead.

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Joe Shirshac and I were on the Trinity River in early November 1982 just as the water came down after a big storm. As we started fishing the river around Junction City the fish were very thick and were very hot so they were breaking them off with 6# Maxima so we went to 8# for the rest of the week with no more break offs.

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Another time (1970s) Joe Shirshac, Frank Pullen, Mel Jeffs and I were on the Klamath River.

We were above Orleans just above the Green Riffle in October with a fresh run of good size hot adult Steelhead (4-7#) for that river.

We could not hold those fish on 6# Maxima so we went to 8# with no more break offs.

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In the late 1970s I learned to fish the tide water some on the lower Eel River with one of my mentors Al Perryman. Al told me he and others at the time use Maxima UltraGreen in 6 and 8 pound for Steelhead and in 8 and 10 pound for King Salmon.

This was probably on the lighter side because they used very good knot systems and could get away with it.

Al used a 'Bimini Twist' at one end of his tippet that he looped to his butt section that had a perfection or surgeon's loop then tied the fly on with a Palomar Knot.

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As you may know this information is just kind of general stuff that will help other who have not had a lot of experience with swinging for Steelhead so they have some general guidelines.

I believe that with the popularity of two handed fishing for Steelhead that traditional methods (swinging flies) is on a come back in the Northwest USA now.

Kurt P
11-08-2008, 10:12 AM
I've been well pleased with Maxima's Ultra-green, too. I've tried 10 # Vanish fluorocarbon, but have had it break several times under minimal stress (just trying to jiggle a snag loose, and when a steelhead that couldn't have been more that 16 inches got into the current). Bummer to lose that fish to line failure (not to mention the snagged flies), so back to the 8# Ultra-green. It has never broken under normal situations and I was amazed how much drag I had to apply to snap it when a 35-40 # King I accidentally hooked on the Feather last Monday took off for the delta. The reportedly 'invisible' fluorocarbon didn't really seem to improve my hook-up rate, anyway.
Kurt

mikel
11-08-2008, 11:13 AM
It always seems like confidence has a lot to do with both hooking and landing steelies and Ultra Green is just always trustworthy...it does what it's supposed to without fail. I've tried Vanish and P-line fluoros with mixed results...the only fluoro so far that measures up is Umpqua Super Fluoro for me...

When conditions are tough and you might only get a chance or two per day I'm using Maxima...-Mike

easymends
11-11-2008, 07:58 PM
I like to use 6lb Maxima Ultragreen as my leader material when I am nymphing for trout. Just that instead of a tapered leader, sinks much faster and much more cost effective. I tie 4X Fluoroflex plus to that and my first bug, then 4X or 5X off the back of the first fly to my trailer.