Bill Kiene semi-retired
01-22-2007, 12:13 PM
Here is my take on the welded loop situation as of January 2007.
Trout/fresh water lines:
For 2007 Orvis is having someone (SA?) make their Wonderline and Clearwater ($29) floating lines with very small welded loops on the front end. They seem much small than anyone else’s I have seen so far.
I really like welded loops on fresh water lines because people can loop on a tapered leader that has a perfection loop on the butt end in seconds. This is particularly nice for beginners and the older crowd as well.
It looks like the welded loop might have several other advantages. One, the end of the line is not cut and open to suck up moisture that can cause the tip of the line to sink. Secondly, with the material double=le it looks like the end of the line might have more floatation which could keep the tip from sinking ass well.
I would like to see these very small welded loops on the front end of all fresh water lines.
A loop on the rear of fresh water lines is debatable because for us it only takes few minutes to put a “needle nail knot” into the rear of those lines. It might be nice for those customers who mail order lines or shop at box stores and have no one to install them.
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Tropical lines:
For tropical lines with a hard mono core we like a medium size welded loop on the front end and a long weld loop on the rear so it can be slipped over the plastic spool the lines come on from the factory. On tropical lines we have to use braided mono loops that we make ourselves and this takes a lot of time while trying to rig people and wait on others at the same time. With the welded loops we can tie a bimini twist with loop in the braided backing and loop on the fly line. Then the customer can loop on the leader. I think all leaders, fresh water and salt water, should have a perfection loop on there butt end.
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Shooting heads/running lines:
Rio has a full range on 30’ shooting heads with a loop on both ends. Airflo has a full range of 28’ heads with a welded loop on the back end only. This is very nice for all.
Rio has running lines with a medium size welded loop one end and a longer one on the other. Airflo has running lines with a medium size welded loop on one end.
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So far I see that Rio, Airflo, SA/Mastery and Orvis have welded loops. Others might have them for 2007 but I have not seen them yet.
I think that welded loops are very important for today’s fast moving market. Anyone who does not like them, which is not many, can merely cut them off and be happy.
Trout/fresh water lines:
For 2007 Orvis is having someone (SA?) make their Wonderline and Clearwater ($29) floating lines with very small welded loops on the front end. They seem much small than anyone else’s I have seen so far.
I really like welded loops on fresh water lines because people can loop on a tapered leader that has a perfection loop on the butt end in seconds. This is particularly nice for beginners and the older crowd as well.
It looks like the welded loop might have several other advantages. One, the end of the line is not cut and open to suck up moisture that can cause the tip of the line to sink. Secondly, with the material double=le it looks like the end of the line might have more floatation which could keep the tip from sinking ass well.
I would like to see these very small welded loops on the front end of all fresh water lines.
A loop on the rear of fresh water lines is debatable because for us it only takes few minutes to put a “needle nail knot” into the rear of those lines. It might be nice for those customers who mail order lines or shop at box stores and have no one to install them.
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Tropical lines:
For tropical lines with a hard mono core we like a medium size welded loop on the front end and a long weld loop on the rear so it can be slipped over the plastic spool the lines come on from the factory. On tropical lines we have to use braided mono loops that we make ourselves and this takes a lot of time while trying to rig people and wait on others at the same time. With the welded loops we can tie a bimini twist with loop in the braided backing and loop on the fly line. Then the customer can loop on the leader. I think all leaders, fresh water and salt water, should have a perfection loop on there butt end.
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Shooting heads/running lines:
Rio has a full range on 30’ shooting heads with a loop on both ends. Airflo has a full range of 28’ heads with a welded loop on the back end only. This is very nice for all.
Rio has running lines with a medium size welded loop one end and a longer one on the other. Airflo has running lines with a medium size welded loop on one end.
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So far I see that Rio, Airflo, SA/Mastery and Orvis have welded loops. Others might have them for 2007 but I have not seen them yet.
I think that welded loops are very important for today’s fast moving market. Anyone who does not like them, which is not many, can merely cut them off and be happy.